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The Red Admiral
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Lol, but I am agreement with Jason, the third nacelle I think would increase range and prolong flight times at high warp. Anyway here's an update with a nice little beauty shot showing more of the back of the ship, and new side and top views with improved structural proportions.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMike20X6:
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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
aintmatter

Third.
Best.
Typo.
Evar.

Fuck.
Me am good Pakled Typist. I make paragraphs "go". [Roll Eyes]


Red, that is a GREAT shot (and where I placed my impulse engines too!) but the starboard nacelle pylon appears to bend in the wrong direction...
It should angle back to the center of the shot (where the pylon bends, that is).
Did that make any sense whatsoever? mabye?

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Look for things that spellcheck. B)

Yeah, the pylon seems twisted awkwardly... it's a perspective eccentricity, not a modeling error.

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The Red Admiral
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quote:
it's a perspective eccentricity
Correcto. An abberation only, not much I could do from that angle. But you can observe the proportions a little better with this: a small and basic rotational animated Gif.

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Jason Abbadon
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It's a crazy new dance: "the Niagra"!
You just need a latin beat and Ricky Martin to sing the lyrics..... [Big Grin]

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The Red Admiral
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Oh no not Ricky Martin. Anyway, just to add further speculation here's a very quick comparison shot with a couple of other quick and basic renders of the imagined first batch Niagara...

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I dig the pototype but mabye you could add those vent things from the tops of the Ambassador's nacelles (I think it would look good) or mabye just add movie-era pennants running their entire length.
Just a thought.
I really DO like it though: I'll build it (with the phasers in that configuration)if I can get ahold of the resin FXM Excelsior model (it's a POS but good for parts).

I really can't see the Niagra with a neck though.
The pics just don't support it.

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Are you sure a Block 1 Niagra would have the nacelles slung so high? Not that we'd really understand how warp field dynamics work, but it seems to me that most starships would be balanced more if the nacelles were lower...

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Lookin' sweet, Mark!

Personally, I really think that the upper nacelles and the lower one should be level in the Z-axis. I've always thought the ship looked better-balanced with the lower nacelle just slightly forward.

(And you didn't add the starboard and port phaser strips... [Wink] )

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You don't understand basic warp dynamics?
No Ivy League schools for you, young man!

I agree that the prototype's nacelle pylons would be lower but they would be tilted up so the Galaxy's nacelles would clear the saucer. [Wink]

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Mark Nguyen
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Or swept back. Or canted downwards. [Smile]

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Or flapping like a duck as it warps along: a natural progression from Voyager's silly nacelles. [Wink]

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I was actually thinking of creating new pylons for the prototype, ones without the angled kink. But it looked just too similar to a regular Ambassador that way. I think with this particular shape and configuration, with little or no neck, nacelles higher than saucer seem more likely.

And yes I've forgotten to redo the phaser strips again, darn it!

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And your shuttlebay is still too short. But who's counting... [Razz]

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The Red Admiral
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Well, not necessarily. I'm basing this model more on the actual photos, and they show no shuttle bay at all. So IMHO the precise dimensions, size (and even existence) of the shuttle bay is purely at the modeller's discretion [Smile]

And after this I'll be dragging my old Freedom model out and giving it a similar workover, based on the model pic.

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