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I imagine the Daedalus to be a sort of destroyer built during the Earth-Romulan War. It is small, fast, and contains a reasonably formidable weapons package. Built around the already-designed components of the Intrepid-class and NX-class (including bridge modules, warp nacelles,etc.), it measures around 159 meters in length. It is only later, after the founding of the Federation, that the class ship we call the Daedalus is pressed into service as an explorer.
Tell me what you think. Be brutal, but keep in mind this is a fast cobble-together of one idea. The positioning of ports, hull details, etc. is just a placeholder.
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I don't care for the secondary hull. And something about the nacelle struts isn't right. Maybe the nacelles should be farther forward? I don't know.
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I don't really know about the secondary hull, either. Is there any evidence that Earth ships employ that rear "undercut" in the 2100s? Personally, I think that should be a later development. I would think that, if we're assuming Sisko's Horizon model is based on a real ship, the design should look at least fairly close to the model. Otherwise, why does the model look that way?
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I'm not worried so much about adhering to canon for this. This is just a fun reinterpreting the Daedalus taking into account the events and designs of "Enterprise".
To take your question about the presence of the undercut, why would an undercut necessarily require a wait until the 2200's? What is so unique about the 2200's that would preclude an undercut before then?
I really don't give a rip about Sisko's Horizon model. If I were trying to copy the existing Daedalus, it's been done to death. This is something new.
Think about it. They're making a habit out of it. The Kzinti are now the Xindi. The Dy-100 class is basically supplanted by the Conestoga. The Romulan BOP's have been retro-designed into something REALLY alien-looking.
Doing that to the Daedalus is no big deal.
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The Tzenkethi are the Kzin. Not that cat-peope have any place outside of cheesy 80's movies anyway.
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"To take your question about the presence of the undercut, why would an undercut necessarily require a wait until the 2200's? What is so unique about the 2200's that would preclude an undercut before then?"
I wasn't suggesting that ships built on 31. December, 2199 would be undercut-less, and all the ships built 1. January, 2200 and after would suddenly have them. I'm just saying that I don't think we've seen any so far in the ENT era, so it seems sensical that they might have been developed later. Especially since they are supposed to have something to do with maximizing warp efficiency, which is something he ENT engineers are still definitely working on.
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continuity fix?
K'Xindi is the Xindi name for the Xindi-Felinoids. They fight four wars with Earth. Sulu said so in "The Slaver Weapon"
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We know that they wanted Sisko to be a "builder" from early on in the series... does anyone think that Picard built the stargazer model... I don't think so!
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Come on. Think about the problem from this point of view. The NX-01 has been established already as a saucer with no secondary hull.
How many ways can we go from there to the basic IDEA of the Daedalus (sphere primary hull with basically an engineering secondary hull.)? All the deuterium tanks from NX-01's saucer, along with those "turbo-chargers" with a warp and impulse room, shoved back into the secondary hull. If we go from the look of the NX-01 directly to the original Daedalus (admittedly a TOS Enterprise pre-design. it's questionable that it ever made it to the final design phase), that is going to look retarded, for lack of a better word. Are we assuming that Starfleet learns how to miniaturize those warp 5 engines shrinking it down to a 105-odd meter ship? Plus, what would be the logic behind doing so now?
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Why does it have to be 105 meters long? That's just what the charts in the Encyclopedias say. And it by far wouldn't be the only mistake.
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You still haven't explained how the old veg-and-2-meat look with the "Strength banding" and overall TOS look is going to work, given the more advanced and detailed design of the NX-01, Intrepid, ECS Fortunate, Conestoga, et al?
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