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If sucking were an olympic sport, and all the countries in the world sent their top hookers to some sort of sucking competition, it still would not suck half as much as this design sucks.
It's awful-worse than the worst kitbash.
That being said, you did a fine job putting lipstick on this pig. Your talents are better employed on better designs, young padawan.
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quote:Originally posted by Axeman 3D: The Antares and Korolev are more tweaks on the same theme, whereas the Deneva is a bit more like it, but also a bit too busy for my tastes. If I were to sit down and design an interstaller tramp steamer and orbital transport it would be somewhat different. It's tempting though, but... I dont know.
Well I was being ever-so-slightly facetious, but ok. Yeah, to be honest the Deneva needs a little streamlining, that lower level side bay for example has to go and I wonder if the modules shouldn't be made to be more in-line with the hull.
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Well, I like the current version, Axe. *Goes to pee on all the haters of Flare*
Weeeeeeeee! Star Trek Water Sports! Weeeeeee! (that's something you should never experiance at... [Wait for it]...
Oh wait, isn't ST: The Experiance closed?
oh well. Guess i better drink some more water...
seriously though, i really do like the Braddy because of it's flying against conventions line of thought. *looks at the ASDB entry on EAS* No back story, YET? you need to dry hump Brend for updates, dude (He's tuff, he can handle it!)
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And to pile on, I think the saucer section is a little on the thin side which makes the two giant Twinkies on the back seem more unnecessary as I wouldn't think such a small, flat ship would need all that power and two deflectors.
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quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Been using the big colouring markers again have we?
He's inhaling the Fumes of Creativity.
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I agree, saucers a bit thin and the hulls a little bulky. However, if I thicken the saucer a bit and thin out the hulls a bit, we're steering dangerously close to making a saucer with tube nacelles again. I wonder if it might be possible to put more than just a coat of lipstick on this "pig" of a design. I might play around with the elements tomorrow and see what ideas I can ome up with. I dont want to make the same old nacelle+saucer+bit in between=Star Trek formulaic stuff.
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Teh PW
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Been using the big colouring markers again have we?
He's inhaling the Fumes of Creativity.
*smirk*
horrible day, yesterday. i spent like a month building the uber Conjuror for yesterday's gaming session... only to die painfully to stupidity. fuking waste. next time i'm justing playing another WF tank who follows the cleric and kills who ever needs killing otherwise, don't bother me DM until i gotta roll intiative...
*sigh* seriously, all that effort for a really good PC (Wizard/Master Specialist: Conjuration and 3 lvls of Paragon. dead to demons with ready action bows of fort save or die...)
still like the braddy as is *steals Jason's markers*
*looks at the 1st pic again, then EAS*
maybe the bussard collectors could be placed a hint forward of (actually the caps of the nacelles to be specific) the top nacelles. not to completely explise the forward sweep of the nacelles to the primary hull but close to it so from the forward view, the collector looks like a thin strip no higher than the top of the lettering of the ship's name, no lower than the NCC 's.
either that or take away some of the room windows closest to the currently placed collectors since the placement in reference to livng spaces is what i think turning everyone else off...
either that, or they been all stealling Jason's markers for 'advanced anal play'
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I like the renderings... though I am not a fan of the dual secondary hull design.
Either way at least it isn't a horrible kitbash...
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quote:Originally posted by Axeman 3D: I agree, saucers a bit thin and the hulls a little bulky. However, if I thicken the saucer a bit and thin out the hulls a bit, we're steering dangerously close to making a saucer with tube nacelles again. I wonder if it might be possible to put more than just a coat of lipstick on this "pig" of a design. I might play around with the elements tomorrow and see what ideas I can ome up with. I dont want to make the same old nacelle+saucer+bit in between=Star Trek formulaic stuff.
Well my first instinct is to simply mirror the hull along the horizontal plane, like so. For the deflector, you can either go the conventional route and put it in a ventral cut-in or if you want to retain the dual dish look of the design, you can sink them into the ventral cutouts where the bussards would have been. It might also be worth adding an extra cowling too a pair of the nacelle radiators. Just to break up the symmetry a little.
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What about making the two hulls less symetrical - perhaps take a wedge out of the inside of the two hulls, and move to a sigle deflector, perhaps underslung, but definatly moved from the outriggers.
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Actualy, after fiddling around (and then redrawing Reverends designs and altering them), I kinda like a more catamaran hull, but with the dual deflectors:
The one on top is the current design, and the one beneath has had the side profile of the secondary hull reduced and reshaped (badly I think, needs tweeking), with the front profile changed to a more wedge shape, with a less excelcior style deflector, raised to be opposite the bussards.
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Hmm - I like it better, but still have difficulty imagining a technobabble reason for two deflector dishes. The ship isn't that wide, or anything. Maybe a saucer placed dish? Keep the catamaran hulls for separate warp cores?
Of course that changes the whole idea of the class quite a bit. Maybe not a bad thing though.
Or come up with a really good idea of why the deflectors are split.
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Rev's new take looks like a smooshed down Zandura, Ginger's got some nice stuff goin....maybe if the two hulls connected at the aft somehow? Maybe a large hangarbay at the aft with specialty mission ships enbarking from one secondary hull or the other....could be a nice colony ship/transport/liner design that way. If so, I'd add tons of windows and luxury suites along those two secondary catamaran thingers.
I'd definitely move the bussard collectors to that hump at the front of the nacelle- that alone would greatly improve the function of the ship (lest the interior of the saucer be all kinds of crazy to walk around- dead ends, cul de sacs, etc.).
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I don't know. Move the bussards and it's not even remotely recognisable as the Bradbury.
I like the cut-in catamaran idea, though it terminates too far back on the saucer and those hulls were always too tall. As for the deflectors, while the cut-ins look of from the front, they make less sense from other angles so I wonder if they should be moved to those humps instead of the bussards.
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