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Omega
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If Roslin actually died, SOMEONE would have to be president. Given enough time, Zarek will probably be a better choice than some, from Adama's perspective.

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Just curious, do we know if the fleet has munitions production capability? I don't know if Peggy was able to resupply the Gal, but after the last battle, I'd think that they should be running low on ammo.

As for the Cylon models, maybe the ones we haven't seen are low production models or specialty units.

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Mark Nguyen
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The beast did indeed help the bucket through the latter half of the second season. And despite being undermanned, I'm sure they transferred more than just Dualla in the year interm we never saw.

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The Galactica was shown to have munitions production facilities in Epiphanies, when someone sabotaged some shells for the Vipers. I assume they will have similar facilities for the larger munitions used by the Galactica's guns. What the Pegasus had that the Galactica lacks is Viper production facilities - so they're back to a dwindling stock of fighters with no source of new ones. Bullets though, those they can do.

It's an interesting thought that there might be a rift developing between Tigh and Adama: as you say MNW, it's a bit of a slap in the face to go through everything Tigh did only to have someone else get all the recognition. Add to that he might resent Adama's appointing Helo to the XO position...could be plenty of opportunities for Tigh to start to get resentful.

Regarding the Cylon models, I know comments made by Ron Moore in interviews have made the point moot but I used to wonder if Six meant all types of Cylon when she said in the miniseries that there are 12 models. If so, I thought we might be up to the 12 already - the seven known models of human cylons, the older model centurions, the new ones, raiders, heavy raiders and basestars. However as I say, comments made by RDM seem to indicate that the 12 models are the human looking variety. I just wonder if there is something to the fact that seven have been seen implementing the Cylon "plan" so far - just enough as would be needed to carry a majority in a group of 12. Maybe there was a 6/6 split in the models over whether or not to attack the colonies, and one of the models changed sides, making it 7/5?

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Odd question - did the launch tube look shorter than usual, or am I misremembering? I talking about the scene where they spaced Jammer versus the previous episode when Hotdog launched.
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quote:
The Galactica was shown to have munitions production facilities in Epiphanies, when someone sabotaged some shells for the Vipers. I assume they will have similar facilities for the larger munitions used by the Galactica's guns. What the Pegasus had that the Galactica lacks is Viper production facilities - so they're back to a dwindling stock of fighters with no source of new ones. Bullets though, those they can do.
Not entirely. Apollo left all of his Vipers guarding the fleet, so technically Galactica probably now has more Mk VII's than it has Mk II's.

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Yeah, but what they have now is pretty much it - unless they can set up Viper production facilities in one of the ships of the fleet, their stock is only going to go down from now on. As you say though, with the entire Pegasus fighter compliment aboard it should at least mean they have some spare now, as well as a full crew for the first time in the series. They might even close the gift shop and put the other flight pod into operation! [Smile]

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Mark Nguyen
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This has been discussed on other boards - and really, that's what they ought to be doing. It's not like the starboard flight pod is doing anything right now - the CGI of Galactica during the last battle actually still shows the hole in the museum window put there by that exploding Cylon raider!

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Did you notice the burn marks on Galactica from its atmosphric drop? Good Continuity.
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Not only burn marks but bloody great holes from missile impacts...it's very refreshing to have a series where the main ship isn't restored to pristine condition at the start of every episode (step forward, USS Voyager!) and there are consequences to be dealt with. How many times did we get that in 28 seasons of Trek?

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Omega
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I seem to recall DS9 getting one of its pylons blown off and being back to normal by the next ep...

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quote:
Originally posted by FawnDoo:
Not only burn marks but bloody great holes from missile impacts...it's very refreshing to have a series where the main ship isn't restored to pristine condition at the start of every episode (step forward, USS Voyager!) and there are consequences to be dealt with. How many times did we get that in 28 seasons of Trek?

Well there was season 3 of Enterprise where the NX-01 maintained the damage it received at Azati Prime all the way up to 3rd episode of season 4.
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I liked this ep. Sucks to be Jammer. Bit of a cop-out it being Zarek who authorised the Circle, but then I suppose logically he's the only one who had the authority (plus neither Roslin or Adama had been under the Occupation so would probably not have chosen such a drastic response). They did try to throw in a red herring by having Adama not really appear to care about the missing persons, but after spending a year having all sort of people go AWOL (down to New Caprica) I guess he'd be used to it.

Tigh's psychology. . . He could well transfer his guilt about killing his wife, onto Adama. Who was the one who brought her back to him (from apparent death during the destruction of the Colonies) in the first place.

I've seen some spoiler suggesting that maybe the seven known Cylon models don't know who the other five are. However THAT would work. One interesting scenario could be if the seven known models discover that, just as they've considered the Centurions beneath them, so they too could find themselves second-class Cylons beneath the other 5 models!

I wonder if we'll see Anders again on a regular basis, or will he just vanish off into the fleet until needed? (I haven't seen this week's ep, only just getting round to commenting on last week's)

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"(plus neither Roslin or Adama had been under the Occupation so would probably not have chosen such a drastic response)"

Er. Roslin was planet-side.

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Lee
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Er, yeah, she was, why'd I write that? It was late and I was tired. I think I had another point regarding Roslin and Adama, and it got mixed up with the point I meant to make about Adama.

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