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It was okay. Everyone had some character fun, but the whole thing seemed to focus on Daniel and Vala more than anything else. Cam and Sam were stuck aboard the Odyssey fighting a home-grown menace, and Teal'c spent most of the movie WALKING across the planet.
It had some nice FX moments, despite the lack of big space battles - the Merrick-posessed Replicator was kinda cool (though largely unnecessary - a hundred bugs could have taen cam down eventually) and I really liked our first look at the demateriailization process that happens when you go through the gate - something we haven't seen since the original movie. And like everyone else, I miss those li'l bugs... Nothing like our actors blazing away at CGI replicators, we haven't seen something like that in a while.
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I went into it viewing it like a series finale instead of a movie, and I wasn't disappointed. It would make a great episode or two in place of Unending which I didn't really like.
There was also some humor in it that I liked; I'll have to watch it again to remember lines.
Oh! And seeing that Alteran's notebook with sketches of a gate and the 'cuboidal' address system, and hearing him say "I had the most amazing idea last night..." as he walked out. That was cool.
Oh, and I've taken thesetwo screenshots of the replicator programming shown on the screen in the Asgard core room - apparently, the replicators are programmed in Javascript.
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What do you want to bet that's code from one of the artists favortie porn sites or something?
I didn't notice the Alterans sketchbook... I'll have to go back and check that out. We had our friends over while we watched it and their kid started throwing a fit right around that point.
But here's a question... If Morgan was alive back when the Alterans left (that was her in the room at the beginning, right?) that would make her millions of years old. Exactly when did they learn to extend their lives? Merlin mentioned being on Atlantis which would make him thousands of years old, which I could accept. But millions makes them darn near immortal even before ascension.
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Oooh, can we get a screenshot of the Alteran gate design? Those two seconds alone fill in a ton of gaps for what the Alterans had in mind. It shows that prior to leaving the Ori galaxy, the stargate technology existed in some form, since the Ori had transport rings that by the present day could beam stuff between planets. Since "our" transport rings can't do this, it follows that the original had since been adapted by the Ori to transport people at least to their capital city. That Alteran dude came up with the original stargates which were ultimately seeded around the Milky Way, and later the Pegasus galaxy (and who knows where else).
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By the way..."Millions of years ago in a distant galaxy..." is damn near to "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." isn't it?
I didn't see Morgan at the beginning; I'm watching the beginning again now and I don't see her.
Got a cap of the notebook; it's 19 minutes in and some seconds. It's upside down and we'd do better to get a higher-res shot...anyone with a Blu-ray drive?
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quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: apparently, the replicators are programmed in Javascript.
Dude, that just made my whole day. Hilarious, yet so wrong.
And I just have to say, I always thought Adria was hot, but damn.
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So it looks like a drawing of the gate, the chevrons, the kawoosh, and the six point destination calcuation diagram.
I don't think the Ori rings transport people between planets. We don't really know how Daniel, Vala and the Prior got to Celestus when they were connected to the villagers early in season 9. They could've gated to the planet Celestus is on first, or they could've already been on that planet.
As for Morgan, I could've sworn she was the woman in the gorup of Alterans, but I may be wrong. I'll have to rewatch it.
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It wouldn't make sense for Morgan to be in that crowd. She is from a time perhaps millions of years after that scene, and with Merlin was one of the last Alterans off Atlantis. After they evacuated back to the Milky Way, she ultimately ascended and came back to "observe" Merlin work on his anti-Ori weapon. The Ancients supposedly live a looooong time, but not THAT long.
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I'm rewatching it. It's definitely not Morgan in the group of early Alterans. Picked up a couple of interesting things: Apparently, the bridge on Daedalus Class ships is in the little tower on the back. I'm basing this on where they cut to the dematerialization effect as they were going through the supergate. I always thought it was in the part that extends forward. Also, did anyone notice the little chevron-shaped lights in the tunnel they found the Ark in? Thought that was cool.
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I too thought the bridge was the extended-forward bit. Tower jives with naval ships though.
No, I didn't; I'll pay attention when I rewatch it. (Comic Book Guy: "I will only watch it THREE more times. Today.")
Does anyone else think the Lanteans were a splinter group off the Ancients, instead of *all* the Ancients? Or am I insane? I'd like to do a sort of chart of their cultural and spatial movements over the eons, but I'd be assuming that not every single Ancient from the Milky Way moved to Pegasus.
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Well we know they didn't ALL go, that plague carrying chick they found in Antarctica for one (also seen in the Atlantis pilot I think) and incidentally, she lived a good million years in the ice...and somehow managed to not getting squished by all that glacial shifting and pressure.
What I'm not sure about though is if the Dakara restart that finally wiped out the plague was before the Lantians returned or after.
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She was seen in the pilot, yes; but I meant, more than just a few stragglers like her were left, but rather perhaps no more than a few city-ships left for Pegasus. Which begs the question of how many Ancients there *were* in the Milky Way - on the order of millions, or billions? The Wraith queen in the Atlantis pilot said their feeding grounds hadn't been as rich as billions in a long time, so we know there were billions of people on some planets in Pegasus - but again, how many were Ancient 'humans' and how many were Human 'humans'?
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Well, Atlantis itself as been likened to Manhattan by McKay (even though it doesn't seem to have nearly as many buildings). So we can safely assume that one city ship could accomodate a couple million people if packed full. We also know of at least one other Atlantis-type ship built by the Lanteans (seen in The Tower). So it would seem that before the war at least, there were millions of Alterans minimum.
Some had also already ascended before they left for Pegasus. But remember too that they were in Pegasus for a loooong time. And they apparently live a long time, even when not frozen. So their numbers would grow quite quickly.
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