quote:Originally posted by Ritten: The past five episodes have felt slow and dragging to me, only my stubbornness has kept me watching without taking naps.
I think it's mostly because the last two seasons we had major storylines that needed to be tied up in the first half dozen episodes (Kobol & New Caprica) before the mid-season lull. This time it's got the whole season in which to finish up, so there's not the same sense of urgency.
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They could have done it with the same urgency, stuffing more episode per hour and fewer design your own Viper commercials.
Well, on the plus side, it shouldn't drag on to another season.
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I felt they'd kept the pace up quite well until this episode, which didn't have the payoff of having any real surprises. The mutiny was predictable right from the The Ties That Bind, Leoben shit stirred just like he always does and there wasn't much movement on the Baltar or Final Four/Five storylines either.
And they're obviously going to be heading off for the Baseship (as if they'd just go back to Galactica and give up!), so they might as well have just done that in this episode.
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I do feel that the Baltar storyline needs to go somewhere soon.. it's seems to be sort of stuck. What actually was the significance of getting Tyrol to shake hands with him? Knowing Baltar, it probably wasn't much more than just preventing another punch in the face from an angry guy.
I did think the mutiny was nicely done. I did actually expect them to just go along with Starbuck again. Technically, Starbuck should probably end up in the brig now, or at least be put under Doc Cottle's care, since she's becoming a threat to the Fleet. But I guess she'll find some way to continue her trip to Earth. It's kind of pointless to speculate about BSG storylines, since they are still quite unpredictable... but I wouldn't be surprised if Starbuck would leave the ship with just Leoben, and lead the rogue Cylons to Earth.
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Baltar is probably trying to make peace with himself and those around him now, which, overall, is better than getting used as a punching bag.
Which group are the rogues? The ones that follow the path of waging war on their creators or the group that feels that they made errors and broke away from the others?
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As with most civil wars, I'd bet each side probably considers the other one to be the rogue.
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Mind you, we haven't really heard how either group feels about the war with the humans at this point. Especially since of the two initial instigators of the Peace Faction, Caprica Six is in human custody amd Boomer is with the more-hardline Cylons. We know (or can infer) that she's no longer especially pro-human, and that the Cavills, Dorals and Simons are about the least likely of the Twelve to favour peace with humanity; but there's no reason to assume that the Sixes, Leobens and Eights (see what i did there?) are any more pro-human.
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Someone on another board pointed something out that made me feel like an idiot. Of course Baltar wasn't being sincere!
Early in the episode, Tory tells Baltar that Roslin isn't concerned by his sect because they're not high profile enough. Next thing we know, Baltar's pleading with Tyrol to join him, ending with the scene where Tyrol takes his hand. But we only see this from Tyrol's point of view. Chances are, Six was feeding Baltar all those lines, telling him to get Tyrol on board so they had someone high profile.
Convincing one of Adama's best officers, as well as the son of a polytheist priest to join Baltar's staunchly monotheistic cult would be a nice little coup. Not to mention that Tyrol was one of the most significant members of the resistance on New Caprica. What better way to make people reconsider what Baltar has to say?
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Mmm. Not sure I buy it. For one thing, when Six is calling the shots chez Baltar, you usually see her doing so. And Baltar IS capable of being manipulative, but usually to get himself OUT of scrapes. But the notion that he's cynically playing some sort of a game with a long-term plan in germinating his little cult is interesting, I'll admit.
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And Tyrol isn't one of Adama's best officers anymore, either. Isn't even an officer, is he? He was demoted to Specialist; and before that, he was a Chief somethingorother, and I don't know if that's an officer or eh, what doyou callem, enlisted rank.
quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: And it doesn't help that every week they say "ALL WILL BE REVEALED!!!".
Sci-fi says that about every episode of every show, including the ones where there aren't any great secrets to begin with...
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I think with Baltar and the Chief that was a genuine reaching out. Even setting faith and religion and Cylon natures aside. I was so mad when Baltar invoked Cally the first time. SO MAD. And then Tyrol practically Vaders him and I was, like, "YES! That is the correct reaction!" Of course, he's going to try to kill him. And there's that part of Baltar that wants him to do it. The apology, and handshake later seemed genuine to me. Sought for and granted.
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I think it's worth remembering that Baltar once saved Cally's life, which (I think) to this day is the only time he's ever taken a life. So there is a genuine personal connection there.
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