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Will it be as good as the first? If you've seen is it? Has anyone seen the entire series of Ape films, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Escape from the Planet of the Apes, Conquest for the Planet of the Apes, and finally Battle for the Planet of the Apes?
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I've the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and beginning of the 5th, but I don't remember much of the 2nd or 3rd. The 4th is still the best of the sequels.
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When I was in junior high school (in the mid 70s) I went to a theatre event called Ape-o-rama where they showed all five ape movies in a row. Those are my ape credentials. Anyways, I just saw the new movie today. I enjoyed it quite a bit. But the "twist" ending was extremely confusing. I'd appreciate someone explaining it to me. Also, can anyone tell me if they could see the cameo by Linda Harrison, who played Nova in POTA and BTPOTA?
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Masao, the ending ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) is not really a thing that can be explained. You make your own assumption. General Thade replaced the statue of Abraham Lincoln in the Lincoln (no, Thade) Memorial. That is the twist. Could you explain how Chuck "Head of the NRA" Heston landed on Earth in the first one? His spaceshipwas orbiting the planet the entire time? I've only seen the original and the new POTA, not the sequels, but I don't think they explain everything. That's left up to you, the audience.
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I've seen it and I think they mixed all the POTA's into one. Like Michael Clarke Duncan's speech at the end reminds me of the given by Ceasar at the end of Conquest and the speech at the end of Battle. Does anyone remember who the characters names were off the top of their head. I went to IMDB and I still don't remember.
It would be a much better ending if he stayed but now he's in Ape jail getting ready for one of the worst Ape sequels ever
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Communications Director Toby Ziegler: I think this time we're all collectively da man, sir.
Deputy Communications Director Sam Seaborn: I accidentally slept with a call girl.
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Actually, all five original Apes films tie in together in a sort of Full Circle time loop. (I don't remember all the names, so I'll go by movie #):
1. Astronaut Taylor lands on a planet where erect, talking apes rule and mute humans are merely primitives. Finds out that he had actually landed on a post-apocalyptic Earth when he discovers the Statue of Liberty buried in the sand.
2. Brent, from a second rescue ship, also crashes on the planet, discovers both Apes and mutated humans who worship a nuclear missile. Missile is activated, blowing up the planet.
3. Zira & Cornelius (off camera) find, repair & launch Taylor's ship before the planet is destroyed. The blast hurtles them back in time to the 20th century, where they become celebrities. They explain Ape history to the present-day humans, especially how during a plague, all cats & dogs died. Genetically engineered apes were then created to substitute the cats & dogs as pets, but they couldn't talk.
4. Caesar, the offspring of Zira & Cornelius, grows up in a faschist U.S. of the future. He looks just like the genetically engineered apes, only he can talk. He organizes a bloody rebellion of Apes against humans.
5. After an off-camera nuclear holocaust, the Apes (who have apparently all learned to talk) join with the surviving humans against mutants from the holocaust. The mutants are defeated (apparently retreating to the Forbidden Zone), and the Apes & humans live in peace. However, a statue of Caesar is seen with tears in its eyes. Perhaps this is because he knows that the peace will not last, or that the Earth will eventually be destroyed.
6. back to #1.
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I seriously doubt they will do a sequel to the new POTA, Dr. Phlox. You don't do sequels to remakes! It's unethical! There's already too many sequels to the original! As many as Rocky!(unless you count Rocky and Bullwinkle)
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Actually Veers it depends on box office business. If it's is indeed a flop no sequel. But if it becomes a $200 million blockbuster their will have to be a sequel. 20th Century Fox is hoping for blockbusters. So if this one does well, from looks of business so far it looks like it will, we will have another franchise on our hands.
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The films were, in order: POTA The Bride of the POTA The POTA Strikes Back POTA: The Wrath of Zaius POTA: The Early Years
Honestly: The POTA Beneath the POTA Escape from the POTA Conquest of the POTA Battle for the POTA
Re: the ending: According to Dark Horizons: FOX exec Bruce Snyder goes on the record to Zap2It.Com about the ending saying: "You're not supposed to be able to (explain it). If the truth be known, it wasn't really supposed to make sense. It was just supposed to go 'whoa,' make you think. Now is he in another world, did he go back in time, did he get forward in time? The reality is there's no firm answer to that. It's whatever you want it to be".
POTA is projected to gross about 70 million Quatloos this weekend. So a sequel might be in the offiing. I doubt Burton would direct, though.
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See? I told you it was for you, the audience, to make up. That's great film making. Leave the audience up to the answer. Cast Away, for example. You never find out what those wings that pop up everywhere represent, that's left up to you. If they make a sequel, I hope it's good. (I would not want a sequel for this film. This one may have had the second or third biggest opening weekend gross, and break $200 million, but I think they should leave the series be.
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I just watched Cast Away last night. The only thing I know about the angel wings is that they're some sort of logo for that artist chick. We never do find out what's in the box.
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The wings are what the woman is making at the beginning, a sculpture perhaps. They're on the pickup truck at the end, and on the box that washes up on Tom Hank's island. In fact, they're in many places in the movie. If you have the DVD, there is an Easter Egg where Director Robert Zemeckis "tells" what his in the box. He says: "Yeah. It's a solar-powered, battery-operated, satellite cell-phone." A laugh. It is obvious that is not what was in there,and he was joking, so you are left to decide what they are on your own. A spiritual reference, perhaps, because Zemeckis is Catholic?
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They won't leave the series be because if they milk it the right way we could have another franchise on our hands. That's what's in now,Franchises. Rush Hour, American Pie, Doctor Dolittle, and the upcoming Shrek sequel.
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Communications Director Toby Ziegler: I think this time we're all collectively da man, sir.
Deputy Communications Director Sam Seaborn: I accidentally slept with a call girl.
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A Shrek sequel? You got this from the same place that said they're putting in a new category for the Oscars, Best Animated Film, and that Shrek is going to be nominated? Did you, Doctor?
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