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MinutiaeMan
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Actually, in Tolkein's book most of the elves are blond, and having dark hair is more of an oddity. (One of the things that made Arwen special, for instance -- in the books.)

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ACTUALLY, it's the otherway around. Blonde haired elves were more... unique. At least amongst the Noldor. It was the house of Finarfin who had blonde hair as his mother was not Noldor but Vanyar. They mostly had blonde hair. This is where Galadriel got her golden tresses - from her Grandmother.

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The battle sequence was totally awesome. I've never been that engrossed by a movie before. The overall story was fast, and what an opening sequence! Though I felt that they should have shown (or provided) more detail about the ents and their ways. I don't think that was covered well.

They missed out on the breaking of Saruman as well. Hopefully that will be at the start of the next movie.

Lee: Merry & Pippin seperate after one of them plays with the Palantir. Gandalf speeds pippin to Minas Tirith.

Speaking of which, I can't wait to see what they do with that city.

To sum up: Best movie I have ever seen.

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Great film, better than the first, although the first was excellent. One of the best battles ever, filled with a great story, characters, and FX. Wow.
Happy New Year!

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Er, what? When did I ask about Merry & Pippin? I know what happens to them. . .

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MinutiaeMan
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SPOILERS for the END OF "RETURN OF THE KING" NOVEL!

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Originally posted by AndrewR:
ACTUALLY, it's the otherway around. Blonde haired elves were more... unique. At least amongst the Noldor. It was the house of Finarfin who had blonde hair as his mother was not Noldor but Vanyar. They mostly had blonde hair. This is where Galadriel got her golden tresses - from her Grandmother.

Ah, my mistake. I misinterpreted something I read -- in the end of the book, Sam's children (or was it Merry's or Pippin's?) had blond hair, which was practically unheard of among the Hobbits before then.

I'll have to clear that up at some point -- I admit that some of those historical tales weren't my highest priority when I read through the books the first time last month. My parents have loaned me their copy of "The Silmarillion," which I'm going to start reading soon. I'll probably pick up a few of the details there... and I definitely intend to reread the LOTR trilogy at some point in the future (though I've got a few other books in line before rereading recent reads -- the "Dune" series, for example).

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Seen it a couple of times now; very good movie. I really ought to read the books again but my sister's got 'em so it could be some time...
Although she only saw the film cos of legolas and Aragorn so...

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I read them in 1990/1991, and they are so special to me, I don't think I could go back and read them again! Might sound silly to some, but that's just me. I may get around to reading them again, one day. I have picked them up and red a chapter here and there, or a passage, nothing cover-to-cover, though.

With the Silmarillion, I read it straight after 1991/1992ish. And I enjoyed it immensly, but after reading things like Unfinished Tales (which is a strong reccomendation) things like Narn i hin Hurin (tale of the children of hurin) which is about Turin Turambar etc. I reccommend maybe reading selected 'bits' of the Silmarillion - as it's rather epic in scale, and almost 'biblical' as it has the creation of Middle Earth. Then halfway through you get the magnificent stories like the Tale of Beren and Luithien Tinuviel or the Tale of Turin Turambar - either of which I WOULD LOVE to see turned into a movie (by PJ of course!!) [Smile] They are stories unto themselves told against a broader backdrop. And reading Unfinished tales (the Narn chapter) it got me to actually appreciate (and reread) the Turin Turambar chapter.

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Andrew, did you note that the doom of mandos set upon the house of Feanor was the source cause of the lord of the rings. Twas a nice twist. The descendants of a man over ten thousand years dead still fighting due to his ego. (Celbrimbor, who forged the rings - and taught Sauron how to make them- was the grandson of Feanor).
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Indeed, and Galadriel that whole time had to suffer for it.

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I see we have some Tolkien buffs.
Perhaps one of you could answer a small question about FotR: Just how does Gandalf get his staff back after he loses it in his fight with Sauraman? I checked and he still didn't have it when he escaped from Isengard, yet later on at the council of Elrond he seams to have re-aquired it.
Is there something in the book that explains this but was left out of the film or is it just one of those little oversights.

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I think I read at tORn that PJ said he fashioned a new one. Wouldn't be hard. He may even have a stash of them in Rivendell or something!! [Wink]

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I think the books might have mentioned something about that... don't remember for certain what happened, though. He might have gotten his old one back somehow.

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