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Sorry. I meant more along the lines of connecting the power in the DHD (replacing a crystal, turning the on switch, whatever) so that the DHD was active and wirelessly connected to the Gate again.
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That could be another thing - the gate can obviously be used sans DHD, so what if the DHD is the key to keeping in sync with the gate network? What if, instead of disconnecting the gate from the system to keep the other System Lords from using it, that he did so to keep HUMANS from using it?
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Im guessing that's what happened. He had already seen that the Tauri could only be pushed so far before they went postal. Keeping them frm being able to use the Gate would only be logical. He may have had some other way of dialing it, but he didn't seem to be using the Gate anyway. He arrived aboard a ship. But then, at that point, the Gate was only supposed to go back and forth between Earth and Abydos. But we're ignoring that.
"He had already seen that the Tauri could only be pushed so far before they went postal."
"Humans". I assume we're still talking about the Abydos gate, right? The Tau'ri are specifically the humans who still live on Earth.
Actually, "Tau'ri" started out meaning "Earth", and the humans there were "the people of the Tau'ri". But I don't think that lasted particularly long.
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Right. He had seen the Humans living on Earth rebel, so he knows that other transplanted Humans would also have the capacity to rise up if pushed far enough or given the opportunity.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: That could be another thing - the gate can obviously be used sans DHD, so what if the DHD is the key to keeping in sync with the gate network? What if, instead of disconnecting the gate from the system to keep the other System Lords from using it, that he did so to keep HUMANS from using it?
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Well we find out in "Waterworld" - Season 4 I think that the RUSSIANS got the Giza DHD, after WWII. The Germans/Nazis had it from the time the gate was uncovered in 1917?? until the End of WWII. So the GIZA DHD was STILL there.
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Carter said the DHD was missing from the Giza dig, but, yes, that was just as far as she knew. The Russians nabbed the DHD from the Germans (though somehow missed the giant metal ring) and evidently the Americans who got the Gate never knew it existed.
This brings up another little problem: For a least a little while, the Germans had both the Alpha Gate and its DHD. Wouldn't you think someone would have started pressing buttons and lighting chevrons...?
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Huh? The Germans found the DHD *during* WW2, IIRC, and the Russians confiscated it from them after the war. The gate was already in storage somewhere State-side by then, and had been since '28. So how could they have had both?
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"I think 'Tau'ri' referring to the humans from the 'First Planet' (as called in one episode) are still called that - the Tau'ri.
"At least up to the episodes I've seen... halfway through season 7."
Yes, but, back in season one or two when they first introduced the term, it referred to the planet, not the people. Earth was "the Tau'ri", and its inhabitants were "the people of the Tau'ri". But before long, they started saying "Tau'ri" to refer to the people, not the planet. And that's how they've been using it since.
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I thought the Germans were the ones that originally found the Stargate in the movie. Then, the Americans would have confiscated it after the war. If they found the Gate, it stands to reason that they found the DHD too. Which means, before the end of the war, they had both.
I could be wrong about that though.
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Unless I'm hallucinating wildly here, the *Americans* found the gate (but missed the DHD) in '28, brought it with them (and experimented on it until the Ernest Littlefield mishap in '4x), and THEN the Germans came along twelve years later and found the DHD (but obviously not the gate, since it wasn't in Giza anymore), brought it back to Germany, and had to surrender it to the Russians after WW2. Mind you, it's been a while since I've seen the movie, so I could be just as wrong. Hmm.
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1928 Americans find gate in Egypt. Experiments begin on the gate.
1940s Gate is activated by chance. Ernest Littlefield steps though the gate. Gate program shelved as funds go towards war effort. Germans discover Dial Home Device (DHD)
1945 Russia confiscates Dial Home Device from Germany following WW2.
Early 1990s Gate is un-shelved by Catherine Langford, who was present at the gate's discovery as a child.
1994 Gate cover stone is correctly translated by Dr Jackson. A month later, Dr. Jackson deciphers the gate function. Abydos Mission Destruction of Ra O�Niel�s false report shelves the gate program.
1997 Stargate is reactivated, SG1 begins.
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Pretty close... The TV continuity actually puts the events of the movie in 1996, about a year before the series premiere - the series was firmly established to be happening in the present day in the second season finale, and in a slightly alternate reality to our own when President Hayes et. al. are slowly introduced as the American government starting in the third season.
Ernest Littlefield went to "Heliopolis" in 1945. Catherine Langford started investigating the gate again shortly after 1969, when a hippie German scientist and his hippie assisstant popped up out of the blue for a short time. It was only in the 90s that she managaed to convince the USAF to more properly research things.
BTW, there are two Jacks O'Neil in SG-1. The other one, Jack O'Neill (two Ls), has no sense of humour whatsoever, according to Jack O'Neil (1 L).
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It was only in the 90s that she managaed to convince the USAF to more properly research things. 
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