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Mark Nguyen
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In later episodes, I think the guy learned to fly without using the spraycans. Ahh, good Canadian TV, this was.

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Mucus
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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
I thought that they never said which Arturo went with the gang in "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome" (I can't believe I remember the episode title). Trome said that he was going to reveal it at some point, but he left the show...

That was my general impression as well. I've read speculation that it was the "wrong" Arturo that slide, which explained his increase in wanting to be left behind (that and the disease) ... but nothing conclusive.

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Aban Rune
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The only thing I remember that pointed to the wrong Arturo sliding with them was that the one that got left behind got knocked down or something, missed the slide, then looked up after the wormhole closed and said, "Oh no...". I always took that to mean that he was the real one and knew a complete stranger had just slid with the group.

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Nim
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And they never resolved that or got him home? That's the worst "leaving a plot thread dangling" I've heard since the final episode of "The Pretender".
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Oh, the whole plotline was screwed up by the end. Maybe they'd have had increasingly obvious hints that 'their' Arturo didn't come from the same original universe as them. Maybe he'd have eventually been eliminated somehow - perhaps he even became a good guy at the end - paving the way for the recovery of the original.

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PsyLiam
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Wasn't that kind of what happened? Didn't Arturo sacrifice himself to save Quinn?

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Well
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As a final jab at John, the writer's offered to make a story by John named "Exodus" into his final episode. The problem was that the writers so radically changed it that you can barely recognize it. It was one final way to show John just who knew what they were doing. Also, it is often said that you can tell when production holds much animosity to an actor's departure...because the writers kill the character in a horrible way or give some other type of horrible fate. Well, Professor Arturo had his brains sucked out, was then shot, and lastly left on a planet that *blew up*. I believe it's easy to see I'm not exaggerating on the hate that led to this firing of John.

There's a lot more info about the behind the scenes goings on and why various writers left here
http://www.dimensionofcontinuity.com/bts.htm

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Aban Rune
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Yah, whichever Arturo it was, he ended up being a decent guy.

So... what happened at the end of Pretender? I don't think I ever saw the last episode. Ms. Parker was hot though.

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Aban Rune
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Say what now?
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Nim
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Aban Rune: "So... what happened at the end of Pretender? I don't think I ever saw the last episode. Ms. Parker was hot though."

Ms. Parker's wife-killing dad died at one point in the ep (I think), the building Ms. Parker and shaved oxygen-tube-guy worked in started exploding, and the whole episode ended with Ms. Parker, Jarod and autistic-irishman hijacking a subway-car and rolling out from the basement of the compund, when suddenly all explodes (building, tunnel, sides of subway-car) and Jarod exclaims "Jump!" to his companions, and all three manage to jump forwards and into the air as one (ugliest stuntwork I've seen) aaand cut!

They may have survived, they may not've, Fade to black. No more Pretender. Wieners.

Ah well, he was ugly and unsympathetic anyway. I prefer Michael T. Weiss as the meth-selling pedophile in "Freeway", one Witherspoon-flick I really enjoy. Kiefer was great, also.

*Bob (Kiefer Sutherland) is wheeled into the court-room, dribbling and fuming*
-"Bob??? Is that you? Look who got beaten with the ugly-stick, lol!"
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Aban Rune
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I'll have to pick up Freeway. I love all things Keifer.
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Nim
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It's a dark comedy flick, based on Little Red Riding Hood, and Sutherland plays "Bob Wolverton". Go figure.
He gets to talk through a voice-box in the latter part of the movie, making his low, gritty voice even more intolerable than in "Fone Boof".

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MarianLH
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Originally posted by Nim the Fanciful:
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He gets to talk through a voice-box in the latter part of the movie, making his low, gritty voice even more intolerable than in "Fone Boof".
But less so than his Peter Lorre-esque voice in Dark City?

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Originally posted by Mucus:
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There's a lot more info about the behind the scenes goings on and why various writers left here
http://www.dimensionofcontinuity.com/bts.htm

That is one sordid tale of TV making.

I saw Tracy Torme at a con once, doing a Q&A around the second season or so. He was getting his butt grilled by an auditorium full of fans. His attitude makes a lot more sense now.

Is it just me, or are network executives the spawn of the devil?


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