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Sol System
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So, uh, it died while the first film was in pre-production, then?
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Obi Juan
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quote:
Originally posted by E. Cartman:
The magic of Star Wars died at about the same time Lucas decided to switch priorities from people to special effects.

Many actors have noted that as a director Lucas has never been very strong (or really tried) at getting emotions out of actors. Maybe he's just trying to play to his strengths.

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AndrewR
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He Directed and wrote ANH - and then got others to direct the rest and co-write (with him) the rest. Why didn't he do that this time around? Especially after the 'backlash' of Ep 1.

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Nim
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"The thing that brings the movie down - WAY too much CGI."

I liked most of the CGI. The cloner-planet had a nice sterile,
art noveau style to it, and the final battlescenes were bombastic.

I agree with too much CGI making scenes dull because there's no challenge to it.
That's what I hated the most with the two Potter-movies, those annoying, flashy broom-tournaments.

This is one of the things I liked about LOTR, sure they had lots of CGI, but they used a whole plethora of filmtricks as well, from huge detailed sets to them "bigatures". Classy!


I also felt robbed of Anakin's finest doublesaber-hour, the trailer had me hoping he'd at least
knock Dooku to the floor once, in a saturated midichlorian rage (since it's said to be so damn high), THEN make a blunder and get maimed.

As for Christopher Lee and his lines, I always say, like with Schwarzenegger, he's as good as the current director makes him.

I'll buy the DVD anyhow, looking forward to it.

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AndrewR
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"As for Christopher Lee and his lines, I always say, like with Schwarzenegger, he's as good as the current director makes him."

Well, wouldn't the lines fall in the writer's domain.

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Peregrinus
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The writer just writes the lines. The director is the one who gets just the right cadence and tone and emotion out of those lines from the way they direct the actors' performances.

The best stuff I've ever seen is where a writer who knows and loves the arena in which s/he's writing writes dialogue for actors who know and love their characters and get directed by directors who know how to get stellar material from their actors, usually by trusting them to know their characters and just concentrating on lighting and angles and whatnot.

In that context, the best Star Wars I've seen was Episode V. Irvin Kirschner is a wonderful director, the actors had grown quite fond of their characters by then, and George had the help of Larry Kasdan, who is quite a durn good screenwriter in my opinion.

--Jonah

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Obi Juan
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quote:
As for Christopher Lee and his lines, I always say, like with Schwarzenegger, he's as good as the current director makes him.
I'd say that holds true for all the actors in this movie and the last one too. Liam Neeson is an excellent actor but his performance in Ep. I was dry and hollow.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Obi Juan:
[QUOTE] Liam Neeson is an excellent actor but his performance in Ep. I was dry and hollow.

Like his chest cavity after the lightsaber duel?

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quote:
The best stuff I've ever seen is where a writer who knows and loves the arena in which s/he's writing writes dialogue for actors who know and love their characters and get directed by directors who know how to get stellar material from their actors, usually by trusting them to know their characters and just concentrating on lighting and angles and whatnot.
I guess we can look forward to Star Trek X then right?
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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Free ThoughtCrime America:

The worst effects are on the capital world. The background has so little realistic depth that it looks like a matte painting.


Yes. So that's much worse than the alternative of, er, a matte painting.

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Andrew writes:
I'm sure lucus changed things between the Ep 1 movie and the DVD/tv release. I'm POSITIVE they got rid of that annoying "Yippee!!" and "Pleeeeasee" from Anakin.

The fact that there are two extra scenes in it is probably a bigger clue that it's been changed.

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The crappiest light-sabre duel in SW history - that includes luke and that little practice droid.


I did try thinking up a witty response to this, but failed. So I'll simply say this. What?

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AndrewR
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Yoda, Annakin, Obi Wan v Dooku. Wasn't THAT great. Ep I ending was WAY better. Yoda looked like frelling Sonic the Hedgehog.

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Nim
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What do you expect from a man a fourth of your mass and N times the force power??? Who've been practicing for 700 years?

If any of you have played "Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight", where you face a Dark Jedi named Pic who is of Yoda's race, you'd see they've intended for years for these geezers to have extreme reflex and speed.

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Aban Rune
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Mmmm.... Dark Yoda, you say? That would be a cool game, methinks... Install it at work, I shall...

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Nim
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Yes, Pic and his big brother Gorc is a handful, when Pic does his mind trick on you, so he disappears from your vision, you'll develop a healthy paranoia to an assful of saber.

Here are some custom Model jobs I found, very accurate to the game, of Gorc and Pic.

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Gorc is fatter in the game, but it's a nice model anyhow.

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Aban Rune
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coooooolll....

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