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I had a bunch of movie friends who had never seen Star Wars, and I got them to watch it (eventually, after much "It's not going to be sci-fi shit, is it?" arguing). Generally, they liked ANH, loved ESB, hated the first half of ROTJ, and loved the second half. And that's without most of them knowing that you are "suppossed" to like ESB the best.
The main complaint they had was that Luke was a bit shit, especially compared to Han. Conversly, one of the most popular scenes was "Luke going fucking mental" at the end of ROTJ. We watched episode 1 and 2, and initially, everyone loved the lightsaber fight with Maul, and thought it was better than the fights of the original trilogy. When we watched them again, however, people put the ROTJ fight above the episode 1 one. TPM has cheap, transitory thrills. The fight is good, there's no doubt about that. But Luke and Vadar at the end of ROTJ walks all over it in terms of emotion.
So I've basically said what Cartmaniac said, but in a longer and more confusing fashion. Woo.
And episode 2 is easily better than episode 1. Easily. If for nothing else than ST V vs ST I syndrome. Yeah, the love scenes were bad, but they were entertaining bad. Episode 1 was just boring.
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I was fairly astounded myself. I didn't actually regain the ability of speech until a fortnight after they'd told me.
One of them had never seen the Back To The Future movies either. Or a single Bond film. Or a single Indiana Jones film. It's parents like that who should be locked up.
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I only saw the first Back To The Future movie and a few parts of the others. In general I thought they were crap.
I also thought the last Indiana Jones movie was crap. I'll say it again: if you could somehow fuse the first half of Ep II with the second half of Ep I and make it work storywise, you'd have the best sci-fi movie ever made. In both cases, you got half a great movie and half a major disapointment.
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Clearly you should never be allowed to have an opinion ever again.
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quote: I also thought the last Indiana Jones movie was crap.
quote: ...if you could somehow fuse the first half of Ep II with the second half of Ep I and make it work storywise, you'd have the best sci-fi movie ever made.
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So Stalin was critical of cheesey George Lucas movies despite the population fawning over him for such "masterpieces" as Episode I and Jar jar? As for Last Crusade, it was a great idea: Indiana Jones has to stop Nazis from obtaining a holy relic! Too bad he'd already made that movie with Raiders (and far far better too!).
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More the fact that you live in a crazy world where the beginning of Attack Of The Clones was better than the ending.
Also, Back To The Future is George Lucus now?
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BTTF is just in my crappy/ overrated movie caragory: I never said Lucas made that. I thought the second half of ATOC was disappointing and SO MANY Jedi died easier than even lowly droids. The original trilogy and Ep I sure made them out to be tougher. I loved ATOC until just after Obi Wan and Jango have their great scrap in the rain: it's all downhill from there.
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He would rather be a succesful (profitable)film-maker than an "artist" hell, he almost invented the film merchandising industry.
He's got a story to tell , and some gimmicks to try out, and since he's got a ton of cash, and is paying the bills, he gets his way. You're seeing his vision, like it or no!
Personally, I really like all the Star Wars movies. They are simple entertainment with great imagery and clearly defined characters. The dialog is stuffy and the acting stiff in the older films , and not a lot better in the new ones! Are they perfect? hell no.
But let me tell you, they work for me just fine! At 40 years of age, I'm just as excited at the prospect of the next film as I was at 14 when the first one came out! And for that feeling alone I owe Mr. Lucas a debt of gratitude!
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Why did I not see this thread when it was started?
As the only member on this forum with a Star Wars character as their member name, I shall have SUPREME AUTHORITY over every opinion that is presented on this board. My opinions shall be the ONLY ONES THAT MATTER and will be agreed with no matter how much you think you disagree.
Now, ESB is by far the best SW film. Followed by Ep IV and ROTJ. And then "Attack of the Clones," and finally Phantom Menace. Without going into long speeches about the reasoning of these choices, I shall say this: all of the SW films are entertainment, and while Ep II is considered bad because of the crappy love story, it is still great fun, and isn't that what matters?
(Potential Spoilers $$$$$$) Ep. III will be better. There's going to be a space battle at the beginning, and lots more battles. Yoda's going to fight again, Anakin will become more evil, fight with Obi Wan, turn into Darth Vader, and kill many a Jedi. Doesn't that sound better?
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Realistically speaking, only Darth Vader can kill Mace Windu. The laws of coolness would not have it otherwise.
Screw that: I want Sideous to kill Mace! That would make the movie worthwile all by itself. ...or mabye Boba caps mace from a goodly distance away.
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quote:Originally posted by Veers: As the only member on this forum with a Star Wars character as their member name...
I don't think so.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abaddon: ...or mabye Boba caps mace from a goodly distance away.
Ten year old bounty hunter clone offing Jedi? Hell, it couldn't be worse than young Anakin.
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