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"There you will learn from Yoda, the Jedi master who instructed me" - Obi-Wan, speaking to Luke Skywalker on Hoth. But wasn't he instructed by Qui-Gon?
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That's a good explanation although it would be reasonable for him to say that Yoda trained him even after Jinn's death in that these will be his first years as a knight and he will still likely be learning from the masters. This would be an especially acceptable stretch of the truth if Obi Wan is for soem reason trying to hide Qui Gon's existance from Luke. There has to be SOME reason he is never mentioned in eps 4-6 (other than the fact that the character hadn't been created yet, but we don't think about such things... )
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Yeah, it might be interesting (and a good way to waste time) to think of theories of why Qui-Gonn wasn't mentioned. How about this. While on Anakins home planet (can't remember the name) Qui-Gonn had sex with Anakin's mother on the sly (this extremely explicit scene was omitted as George Lucas thought it might affect the films suitability for children). Now, the child he had fathered actually became, er.. , Han Solo. Although Obi Wan had not met Han Solo at the time he rescued Luke, his Jedi premonition told him not to mention this fact to Luke, fearing that Luke would tell Han. This turned out to be a prudent measure as Han's brash personality made him completely unsuitable to be allowed to train in the force. Although this knowledge died with Obi Wan in A New Hope, Anakins mother might still be alive ( although very old), and perhaps she will tell someone.
This theory would make Han Solo Luke and Leia's father's half-brother.
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To explain why Han doesn't look quite as old as he should in ANH, his force powers didn't exhibit themselves in the normal manner, and instead, his ageing process is a bit slower than most humans.
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Well, considering Han Solo is from Corellia, that wouldn't hold much water anyway. Maybe they next two episodes will have more of the Yoda Obi-Wan story. They seem to be decent friends in the original 3.
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First, If you guys need a canon answer as to why Qui-Gon Jinn wasn't mentioned in episodes 4-6, take the easiest answer:
He didn't need to be. Think about it. What use is it for Yoda or Darth Vader to mention him? He was only training Anakin for a very, very short time.
There are also hints that Yoda did teach Obi-wan before Qui-Gon Jinn did in Episode 1. "But Master Yoda said I should be mindful of the future" is your biggest clue.
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And Obi-Wan seems rather comfortable speaking to Yoda at the very end of TPM, with the latter speaking more as an acquaintance than an authority, in parts.
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Luke Skywalker was a natural. Darth Vader (while pursuing him in the Trench, ep 4) says, "The Force is strong with this one."
That after only a day or two of training with Obi-wan.
Young Obi-wan, however, might not have had such fast learning ability. [I take it that Luke is a rare case, the Force is strong in his family.]
Obi-wan may have undergone years of basic Force training with Yoda, and then been entrusted to Qui-Gon for practical field experience. {perhaps when Yoda was promoted to the council?}
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I don't believe training had anything to do with it. Vader would've detected Luke's force-aura before his training too. They had never met, that's all. As you say, Luke IS the son of the mightiest Jedi of modern SW (referring to the midichlorien count), thereby inheriting more of the force than any other child-of-jedi.
Oh, and by the way, smart move of Amidala to hide Vader's only son on his own birth-planet. He must've smacked himself in the head when he found out. 'Course, maybe she knew he would never dare to return to Tatooine, maybe in fear of stumbling on his mom's grave.
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My explanation is that Yoda taught Obi-Wan the basics of the Force, how to move stuff mentally, the mind-trick, etc. But it was Qui-Gon that gave Obi-Wan the field training.
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ROTFLMAO! What if Vader had turned his head towards the window during his duel with Obi-Wan, catching a glimpse of his little protocol-droid leaving, the apple of his eye. SUDDENLY, thousands of memories flash through what's left of his brain and he instinctively presses himself against the blast-doors, sobbing and drooling! "Threepiooo, come baack!! We are one!!! *sniff*
Kenobi, nauseated by the sight, gives him a merciful saber-blow to the head and leaves, muttering... "Now that's what I call a psychological FUBR!"
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Regarding Obi-Wan, where'd he get the name Ben from?
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