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Every US President elected since 1840 has died in office, save Reagan, who almost got killed. Given the way this election is headed, I am worried that the pattern may hold true again.
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Neither Carter nor Ford died in office (they're both still around, but Ford'll kick it soon)
I don't think Truman, Johnson, or Eisenhower died in office.
I doubt Clinton'll die before his term is over ...
Unless I'm mistaken, the last two Presidents to die in office have been FDR (of natural causes), and JFK (of a bullet or two ... or possibly three ... )
------------------ Gore/Lieberman 2000 *** "You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos
"You're history!" - MacLeod *** "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush
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Oops. I had rewritten that message so many times, I forgot the important part: The presidents that died were elected in a year ending with a zero.
I'm very sorry, I don't know how I managed to omit that.
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I'd personally find it grimly amusing if the "curse" fell upon Al for claiming the victory, even though Bush won.
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Al hasn't claimed the victory yet. No one has, and Bush shouldn't have claimed victory either ...
Well, I should rephrase that. If Bush does win Florida, then both men can claim victory:
Gore for winning the popular vote (and I can almost guarantee he'll be back in '04 to give Bush a run for his money)
Bush for winning the Presidency by way of the Electorate College and *not* the majority vote
It would be rather impossible for Gore to "win" the curse f he should lose, unless he gets elected in '04 (I really doubt he'll die before Clinton is out of office), and *then* dies ... the whole point is that the President-elect who is elected in a year ending in '0 dies in office as President, so ...
------------------ Gore/Lieberman 2000 *** "You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos
"You're history!" - MacLeod *** "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush
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"Well, I should rephrase that. If Bush does win Florida, then both men can claim victory"
You liberals have an odd definition of victory. Victory is accomplishing your objectives. Gore's objective is to win the presidency. The popular vote is only prehipherally relevant to this goal.
There can be only one, you know.
As for the curse, you're taking things way to seriously. It's a JOKE.
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Y'know Omega, almost every one of your posts recently has had the phrase "you liberals..." in it. I'm sure there's a deep-rooted psychological reason behind you constantly having to put people into catagories, almost certianly due to guns.
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Yes, there can be only one, but Duncan MacLeod isn't running for president, so ...
Gore can claim victory -- he did win the popular vote, and got more votes than any other Democratic nominee in recent history. You can bet he'll be back in 2004, and even your vote won't be enough to keep Dubya in office.
JeffR, the ballot situation is very tricky. If it was just a matter of people reading a confusing ballot, then, even I would say, tough for Gore, no revote. BUT! Here's where it gets intereasting: the Sample Ballot was *not* the same as the actual ballot; and it is possible that it is against Florida Election law to have the arrow, or dot, or whatever were you *mark* the ballot on the left side of the candidate's name, thereby making the ballot itself illegal ...
I still stand by a Federal Investigation of Florida (regardless of outcome!) ... because no one can deny that there is something *fishy* going on ... besides which, Florida itself has said (well, ok, the representatives of the state) that the election won't be certain until Sept. 17th, when the absentee ballots are counted ... this is a *very* close race, people ... I don't think it would be fair for any side to accuse the other of trying to postpone the inevitable. Although, it does make me wonder that the Governor of Florida happens to be the brother of one of the dudes who wants into the White House ... you can bet if it comes down to Bush & Gore again in '04, this'll be a major issue.
Omega, regarding the posts you made earlier: would the tie-breaking vote be cast by the *current* Vice President (Al Gore), or by the VP the Senate chooses? (Or whomever chooses them)? I don't think it was that clear.
------------------ Gore/Lieberman 2000 *** "You still don't understand, do you MacLeod? I am the End of Time!" - Kronos
"You're history!" - MacLeod *** "I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - George "Dubya" Bush
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Here's a thought, back on the original topic...
This has been the closest, most drawn-out, and certainly most controversial election in quite a while. If any president is likely to be assassinated (or at least have an attempt made), it'll be whoever ends up getting it this time.
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