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***Lifted directly from the Sunday edition of the Palm Beach Post.***
News Sunday, January 14 Miami-Dade ballot recount By Clay Lambert and Bill Douthat, Palm Beach Post Staff Writers Sunday, January 14, 2001
"MIAMI -- George W. Bush would have gained six votes more than Al Gore if all the dimples and hanging chads on 10,600 previously uncounted ballots in Miami-Dade County had been included in the totals, according to a review by The Palm Beach Post.
That result would have been a hard blow to Al Gore's hopes of claiming the presidency in a recount. Before the vice president conceded last month, the Gore camp had expected to pick up as many as 600 votes from a Miami-Dade recount -- barely enough to overtake Bush's razor-thin Florida lead. Instead, The Post's review indicates Gore would have lost ground.
If everything were counted -- from the faintest dimple to chads barely hanging on ballots -- 251 additional votes would have gone to Bush and 245 more would have gone to Gore, The Post review showed."
So, Supreme Court or no Supreme Court... the people have spoken.
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Well, that's all anyone wanted. What bothers me was why the Republicans couldn't wait for a vote. They could've avoided all this.
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Because they didn't have to. According to the FL election rules, the election was over, the votes had been tabulated, and the time for recounts had passed.
That the Democrats wanted to violate the 14th amendment, (That's what the Supreme Court Ruled, 7-2) and conduct special mini-recounts, was beside the point.
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So basically, all the recounts would have done was waste time, waste tax money (that's YOUR money, for any Floridians among us), and, as they would have served no legal purpose, simply have hurt the country. So thus, in response to those who wonder why the GOP wanted to stop the recounts: what possible good could have come from their proceeding?
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------------------ Star Trek Gamma Quadrant Average Rated 6.83 out of 10 Smileys by Fabrux *** "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier ... just as long as I'm the dictator." - George "Dubya" Bush, Dec 18, 2000
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Peace of mind from what? Bush would be president either way. The only reason it'd be required for your peace of mind would be if you had let yourself get excited over something that would make no difference either way.
As for the roles being reversed, Ritten, they have been. 1960. Nixon backed down, when he likely could have proven that JFK stole the election from him.
------------------ "Still one thing more fellow-citizens--A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government..." -Thomas Jefferson
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I promised myself not to get involved in any more election year disputes, but as has been stated previously the roles were reversed. Kennedy and Johnson did steal the election from Nixon. Let's see... dead people voting in Texas, and all of them for the Kennedy/Johnson ticket (ever wonder why they called him "Landslide Lyndon?"), ballot boxes from Republican precincts in Chicago "accidentally" winding up in the river, and so on.
In other words, there have been plenty of election year shenanigans from BOTH major political parties to go around, so the Democrats certainly shouldn't be crying foul now. Having said that, Nixon DID NOT go quietly into the night after the 1960 election. His party hacks worked furiously behind the scenes to challenge the legality of the election. To his credit, he didn't do it as publicly and painfully as the current Democratic Party did, but the truth is there. There are several wonderfully researched, credible college level texts dealing with the election that clearly spell this out, in excellent detail.
I'm not terribly happy with Bush becoming our next president, but that is the reality of the situation, so we're just going to have to deal with it.
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Oh, and the Grand Opressive Party wanted to stop the recounts because they were leading and continuing would have risked that lead. And why risk the risk when one can just stop the count.
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Nevermind, the point is moot, and, since I am a moderate, screw it. If Bush, Jr. flops, things can be fixed in '04, if he doesn't, well, then the next team gets to try in '08. I just hope my gut feeling about Bush is wrong, but.....
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First off, since when is asking for a recount illegal?
Second off, well the phrasing of that question opens the door to all sorts of what ifs now doesn't it JR?
Third off, your guts have no place here Ritten.
------------------ Oh, yes, sitting. The great leveler. From the mightiest Pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit? ~C. Montgomery Burns
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Yeah, I like your guts too, Ritten, although, I must say, they're usually not splattered over my shoes ... dammit ... ::cleaning::
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