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Harry
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Even though I'm not Mark, I'm opening this one early.

Because there are some very early screenshots.

And they confirm the suspicions I had during "Awakening"! V'Las is working with ROMULANS!

And on a geekier note, ENT Romulans have ridges...

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Mark Nguyen
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Better than "Tech of Awakening". [Wink]

Alas, I've got a Christmas party tonight and am leaving town immediately afterwards, so I won't be doing a full review until Sunday.

Other screencaps of interest:

An Andorian Xindi weapon! Or so we're led to think..?
http://stenterprise.fotki.com/kirshara/003.html

The Andorian Fleet gets jiggy!
http://stenterprise.fotki.com/kirshara/035.html

Versus the mighty Vulcan Fleet!
http://stenterprise.fotki.com/kirshara/064.html

T'Pol gets melded - sharing her bad mojo!
http://stenterprise.fotki.com/kirshara/029.html

Lookie! Pointed stick of interest!
http://stenterprise.fotki.com/kirshara/053.html

New babe in charge:
http://stenterprise.fotki.com/kirshara/085.html

Also, it seems that the Romulan guy is wearing the "Rommie Plaid" uniform of Nemesis, rather than either the TNG-era greys or the two-colored TOS style. It's NOT Romulans of the future, folks. [Smile]

Mark

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Aban Rune
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Hmmm... Andorians torturing Vulcans... what is this, "24"?

I haven't seen any of the episodes of this arc, so I won't comment on the Romulan connection, though, in principle, I think it's a cool idea.

Dang... T'Pol always looks good.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
Alas, I've got a Christmas party tonight and am leaving town immediately afterwards, so I won't be doing a full review until Sunday.

If anyone gets shot at that party, you have already made yourself the prime suspect.

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Mark Nguyen
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Unless that's what I *want* you to think. Please, NEVER underestimate a Vietnamese man's connections to the mob.

Mark

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Well considering that Jolene Blalock does look good, it stands to reason so would T'Pol.

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And thank goodness for that.

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Regulus is close to both Vulcan and Andoria? If Vulcan is at 40 Eridani and Andoria is Procyon,,,what the heck is the Vulcan fleet doing out by Regulus?

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I can't remember the Romulan uniforms from Nemesis - but I know in Season 3 DS9 the Romulan uniforms changed to the more 'colourful' plaid look - reminiscent of TNG but a few more colours in the squares. Did they keep this look on with Nemesis?

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Some random items:

-Apparently, Pinar's (sp?) syndrome that T'Pol was suffering from is an imbalance caused by an inexperienced melder. T'Pau was able to correct it with another meld. This cure was another thing being supressed by the High Command.

-The High Command is being disbanded, and Earth will soon be truly "on its own" in exploration, since apparently they are returning to a more pacifist way of life. To me, this explains what happened to all the Vulcan combat cruisers in the intervening years between ENT and TOS. Of course, that still doesn't explain the lack of influence in starship design from the Andorians.

-Cool nod to TOS seeing the Vulcan fighting sticks. They're a little smaller, but they still work.

-Voss released T'Pol from their marriage since the reason T'Pol agreed (helping her mother) no longer exists. He was also the one who provided the codes to Archer to be able to beam into the city.

-Still no sign of the original Vulcan ship (sigh.)

-The Vulcan fleet was by Regulus because it was out of range of the Andorian sensors.

-Surak's writings have to be translated. Apparently Vulcans have lost a language or two (or dialect) in the intervening 1800 years.

-V'Las and the Romulan were working towards reunification of their worlds. Why, and why now? Especially since knowledge of who the Romulans are is not really known to the general population.

That's all I can think of for now.

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If Andoria is Procyon then why the heck would the alternate future battle of Procyon V be so named? Wouldn't it have gone by some other name, like the one the Andorians would have used?

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Maybe Andoria is the name of the homeworld planet.

Judging by the strength of the Vulcan attack fleet, and assuming that it represented a fair portion of the Vulcan's total fleet (a fair assumption since it seemed to be the main effort in a major war), we can estimate that the Vulcans probably don't have more then a few dozen large ships.

The Romulans clearly want to weaken Vulcan before the 'reunifacation', which seems to be their overall goal. As the war is called the "Earth-Romulan war", does this mean that the Vulcan will somehow be weakened before the Romulans attack?

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quote:
Originally posted by B.J.:
-V'Las and the Romulan were working towards reunification of their worlds. Why, and why now? Especially since knowledge of who the Romulans are is not really known to the general population.

Considdering the Vulcans seemed to be becoming more Romulan, it seems to me that the plan was to pick themselves up a whole other planet of Romulans eventually.
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Boy, that was sure a quick fix for T'Pol's Pa'nar Syndrome! [Eek!] A pity, I'd say, as I'm sure that had they wanted to they could have done some interesting things with that, especially if they had continued the original HIV-parallel. This miniature "magic reset button" strikes me as odd.

This episode practically explains every difference between ENT and TOS Vulcans thart anyone can think of all by itself. Nifty, although again, perhaps a little too convenient.

Same with T'Pol's marriage to Koss, as well. I can excuse the previous two points as Coto "putting right" things which he felt B&B had gotten wrong, but the marriage thing only happened this season. And it never really served to advance plot or characterization. It seems as if it were never clearly thought out in the first place, and now they've just aborted it. (Kind of like the Temporal Cold War, eh? [Razz] )

DoughBoy:
There is ZERO canon evidence that Andor(ia) is located at Procyon, that was just conjecture by Mandel because the traditional Epsilon Indii no longer seemed to make sense. Ironically, Procyon would no longer seem to make sense for extremely similar reasons.

B.J.:
You don't see Andorian influence in Federation ship design??? I've always thought that the Andorian ships looked quite fittingly reminiscent of Federation vessels, and think they're one of ENT's best designs.

As to the Romulans wanting "reunification," I take this to be their euphemism for "conquest of Vulcan." [Wink]

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Harry
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Looking at the situation in Celestia, Pollux seems to make the most sense of all prominent stars as location for Andor, because it's roughly half-way between Regulus and Vulcan. Although "Who Mourns for Adonais" also takes place at Pollux, so no Andoria here either.

There probably aren't any local, prominent stars left for Andor. Perhaps the easiest way out is to claim Andor orbits a star that we haven't discovered yet (or that doesn't actually exist in our universe).

EDIT: some people have already made some more likely guesses

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