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AndrewR
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I have an idea - just looking at your chart at the Journal of Applied Treknology or whatever...

Before the or taking into account your DY-950 (i.e. the front shape) Leading into the S.S. Enterprise with the circle/torus at the back!?!

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An intriguing possibility.
Perhaps the result of an experimental project using Vulcan engine designs?


Of course if I go down that road the guy who came up with the other take on the DY Series is going to think I stole his idea.

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Well - it's not a huge leap - especially now with Enterprise and Vulcan ships etc. You could always say he inspired you - but your ship-shape [Smile] gave me the idea before his did.

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On second thought that might not be such a good idea, given the S.S. Enterprise's distinct XCV-330 registry. On the other hand the registry could just mean that the ship was sold to another company or that XCV is an early reg code for interstellar liners...hmm...I'll have to think about this.

However I am now seriously tempted to put a split-ring on one of the later DYs...call it a little bit of industrial espionage [Wink]

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Has anyone got a good view of the SS Enterprise??

If you look at Matt Jeffries designs of it - at the front the 'pod' thing looks sorta DY'ish. Then there was that Chronology version floating around somewhere - but it's pod looked more like your later classes - that's what reminded me! [Smile]

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Hey I did this - took me about an hour to find the images and fumble my way around the art program - geez they've changed PSP since version 5. (Well a little) [Smile]

WARNING!! It's very crude. Especially the 'moon ship' ;o) (From the opening Enterprise credits)

It's a spaceship evolution chart:

(It's large - be warned... 800kb I think)

http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/44/starshipevolution.jpg

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It makes good sense. Thank you for the chart. I can not wait to see the official design of the lunar orbiter, but that is a good representation. [Big Grin]
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The 'Reverend?'s and 'Masao?'s are Bernd's own drawings. Just for the record.

There are two more obscure early ship classes: the RT-2203 (SS Tomobiki) and the BBI-993 (SS Buckaroo Banzai). My pet theory is that the RT class of ships where the ones with the rings. Of course, this was way before the XCV cropped up, and dates back from my days as a n00b [Wink]

But you might want to consider some special designs for the BBI's and RT's.

PS1 What's that "moon ship"?
PS2 I think the design of the Fortunate was very good. Especially for the new CrazySexyCool attitude in Trek [Smile]

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Actually the Valiant is mine...for the record [Wink]
One of these days I'll finish off the other views.
The Conestoga dose indeed appear to be one of Bernd's but the "S.S. Enterprise" dosen't look like his usual work to me, so it might be a contribution.
Oh and the NX-01 is Bernd's too by the looks of it.

As a side note I actually did a dedication plaque for the Valiant a while back that has it as one of the RT series so perhaps the ringship is of the BBI series...not that it matters which way round it goes.

After a few sketches exploring the idea of incorperating the ringships into the DY line and I've decided that while there are some similarities, on the whole it would be very difficult to intergrate them in the the evolution of the DY without looking forced.
Perhaps when I'm done I'll go back and make a whole new family of designs for the BBI & RT ships.

Nice work on the chart Andrew, however for some reason I got the impression that the Luna warp ship was wedge shaped.

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Thanks for the nice words. Sorry I didn't realise some were actually Bernd's. Sorry Bernd.

Oh and the Lunar Orbiter ship is VERY VERY crude. Sorry [Smile]

Yeah it might be hard to fit the ring-ship in... but I just noticed on the DY-350/700 just after the 'balls' near the rear is a little shape that appears on the 'end' of the Ring ship's 'spine'. And the 'pod' at the front fits the Valiant's/Conestoga's 'body' but more interestingly the original Matt Jeffries' version has a DY-type front pod!

see here:

http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/44/ring1.jpg

http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/44/ring2.jpg

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You mean this thing?

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It's just a generic grebbile. Bear in mind that the DY-245/(750) schematic was based off a fuzzy, low-res scan of a murky black and white photo, so I had to embellish a few details.
Personally I think this particular bit is a good candidate for the refuelling ports for those tanks.

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Yup, it reminded me of that similar looking structure at the end of the Ring-Ship. Jeffries included it on a few other versions too.

There is also an early sketch of a ship with a saucer that has those antennae. Also a sketch with the front of the DY's attached to the front of a saucer with nacelles. (Jefferies' sketches towards the E.)

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UPDATE:

I wasn't at all happy with the way the cargo pods looked from the front to I went back and realligned the structure so it looked far more symetrical.

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Also updated the launcher chart.

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What program do you use, again? If it's Adobe Illustrator - how do you do your lines... i.e. do you use that line tool or the anchor-points tool??

Or am I doing things totally wrong??

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Rev uses PSP7.

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