Topic: Attack on the Senator ($$AotC$$ $$poiler$$)
Saltah'na
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Tora Ziyal said that she still does not know of the reason for the attack on Amidala. Well, neither do I, unless you get beyond the facts.
The facts are:
Zam Wessell was hired by Jango Fett to kill Amidala.
Zam Wessell is killed by Jango Fett when she fails.
Jango Fett gave a genetic sample of himself to facilitate a clone army.
Jango Fett is working for Count Dooku, who in turn is working for Darth Sidious.
The entire Clone Wars is basically a sham to tear apart the Republic, and kill all the Jedi in the process, by converting Anakin Skywalker to the Dark Side.
What I don't quite remember is whether or not Amidala was trying to vote for or against a Republic Army consisting of these clones. I am under the impression that she is, under the urging of Palpatine and the new Queen of Naboo. If she was voting against, then this might explain the attempted assassination on her life. If not, this complicates things.
If Amidala did support the notion of a Republic army, the only reason I would think of why Amidala was a target is so that Palpatine would get Amidala and Anakin together, in order to ferment Anakin's bad side. Palpatine did know that Anakin had some sort of affection for Amidala, and perhaps decided to use it against him. Palpatine also perhaps may have urged the Jedi Council to let Anakin escort Amidala alone back to Naboo, in order to get Anakin away from the influence of the Jedi, most notably Obi-Wan Kenobi, who has of course been trying to keep him in check.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dooku or Palpatine paid the Tusken Raiders to kidnap Anakin's mother as well, and to kill her in order to have him lash out in the Dark Side of the force.
What think you?
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Amidala was against the clones.... I still do not understand who ordered the clones to be made in the first place. And who wiped the data from the jedi computers...
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He's got this well orchastrated out. I don't think he cares if Amidala and Anakin get together or not -- why would he? He's certainly got plans for Anakin, but I don't think he's forseeing turning him into his most trusted aide (at least not yet). Hell, even in ANH Palpatine trusted Vader only as far as Tarkin did.
Yes, Amidala was against the clones -- I get the feeling she was one of the most vocal opponents towards the "grand army of the Republic", and probably one of the reasons Palpatine targeted her for assassination ('cuz its pretty clear he's the one playing with all the strings, here).
Speaking of the clone army ... they DID say they'd cloned 1,000,000 troops, right? Is that ENOUGH for a "Grand Army of the Republic" which consists of thousands of worlds? Somehow I think that might be a bit like the US having a standing army of 100 troops or so. Uh, nice, sure, but hardly great.
Oh, yes ... can I add? Jar-Jar Binks is essentially responsible for the destruction of the Republic?! What a fuckin' ... argh. Oh, well. A real reason to hate him now.
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As I recall, the first batch was ready, and it was sometihng like 1 000 000 or so. Can't quite remember.
Now, it was mentioned that Dooku was a Jedi at one time. Was it stated how long ago? If it was at the same time of the order for the army, then it could have been him doing it. Also, if he was still a Jedi at the time, Dooku could have easily erased the records of Camino from the Jedi Archives. He seems to be quite the powerful dude.
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Reading the novel right now, and, yup, Amadala was more or less the leader of the opposition. Palpatine was, if not BEHIND the assassination attempt, at least not horribly bothered by it.
Dooku's been un-Jedi for some time, at least a year or so.
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That is odd, I thought Amidala was FOR an army- not the clone army because noone knew it existed yet. They wanted an army so that the Republic could act on its decisions rather than having no teeth. Kinda like a League of Nations vs. United Nations thing. This makes sense because Amidala left Jar-Jar in charge and I highly doubt Jar-Jar is that much of a goof to go totally against Amidala's views/wishes.
As for the army, it just so happened that there was a clone army ready for transport, and thus came into battle against the droids.
Amidala's murder attempts were ordered by Dooku and Nute Gunray. Gunray has a bit of a grudge against her and since she supports a Republic army- she is the main resistance against the Trade Federation's droid army, and thusly domination.
So it makes sense that Amidala supports a Republic army.
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I just did watch the film again... and I'm still convinced Amidala supports the army- to stop the Trade Federation's(and the Separatists) droid army.
How else would they stop it? Negotiate with them? "Please don't secede, or else we'll argue you to death!"
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Yeah, obviously you missed the lines. She is the leader of the opposition to the Military Creation Act. She states this when she and Anakin are packing for Naboo, and at least one other time I think...
Jar Jar was duped into playing along with Palpatine, and that's at least partly why Palpatine wanted Padme to leave Coruscant in the first place. He knew he could trick Jar Jar and take control as long as she wasn't around...
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Yeah, I assumed that this was the reason he wanted her killed in the first place. If the assassination succeeds, Jar Jar would probably end up taking her place until Naboo could send another senator (assumably one with a brain). If the attempt fails, Palapatine has reason to insist that she go into hiding, again placing Jar Jar in charge.
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