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Well as you notice, Sloan was wearing commanders rank everytime he appears to Bashir so maybe Col. West was just posing as one to promote his plan to the president. They are supposed to eliminate threats to the Federation. Maybe he was working in that capacity when he tried to assianate Azetbur and then Lt. Valeris.
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Naaaa....Kirk and company al knew who Col. West was. He would've had to actually be a Commander.
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quote:Originally posted by Intruder1701: Well as you notice, Sloan was wearing commanders rank everytime he appears to Bashir --
Zuh? In "Inquisition" he was wearing some funky version of Captain's insignia, and in every other appearance he wasn't wearing a Starfleet uniform at all.
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Ok, this next question may not may not be related, but do the enlisted guys go to Starfleet Academy or is there some sort of "Starfleet boot camp"? I noticed that there are other universitys out there other then Starfleet Academy, theres the Vulcan Science Academy and the university on Betazed among others. So that brings me to my next question. Are there other sort of commisioning programs for officers such as ROTC or like we have in the navy Seaman to Admiral where enlisted crewmembers have the oppurtunity to become officers?
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Star Trek II certainly implied that enlisted people trained alongside officer larva at the Academy, but they also had an attendee who was already a Lieutenant J.G. (Saavik), and confused midshipmen (Academy cadets) with enlisted personnel in the form of Peter Preston.
Most of the time, Star Trek forgets that enlisted people exist, as was discussed earlier in the thread. Even TNG: "Lower Decks" was about junior officers rather than enlisted people. And, of course, then there's the artist formerly known as Lieutenant O'Brien.
In short, no, there's no evidence of boot camps, or of OCS programs for enlisted personnel. Feel free to make up your own. One of my stories alludes to an enlisted basic training center at a place called Gallipoli, on Alpha Centauri A-IV. Feel free to borrow it if you like.
quote:Ok, this next question may not may not be related, but do the enlisted guys go to Starfleet Academy
Yep, in the DS9 episode "Empok Nor" two crewmen appeared who were at the Academy together.
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Well, in my fanfic (which isn't--quite--released yet BTW, but it's one of the bigger projects at SCN ) we are (or at least I am) are treating ensigns as being relatively high up in the chain of command, with all sorts of NCOs and crewmen. The distinction so far isn't as clear-cut in the works of the other writers, though.
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quote:In short, no, there's no evidence of boot camps, or of OCS programs for enlisted personnel.
Then again, there has to be something along that line to account for Yeoman Rand. She was still wearing enlisted insignia in TMP, yet she was definitely in officer country in STVI.
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I believe Chief O'Brien has said before that he didn't go to the Academy. He stated in one episode that the day before he was to ship off to a music academy he enlisted in Starfleet and shipped out.
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In "The Drumhead" Crewman Simon Tarsis said he attended the Academy's "Enlisted Training Program".
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