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Siegfried
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Really, I don't. Once upon a time, I gave it serious thought. Of course, that was back in the days when I thought the <blink> and <marquee> tags were the coolest thing since America Online 3.0. Now, I don't know what the hell I want to do with my MIS degree when I graduate, but I do know this: I don't want to be a web developer!

**bangs head repeatedly on his desk before cramming some more knowledge into his worthless brain**

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Cartman
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Web designer is, like, at the bottom of a very long list of occupations that MIS degree grants access to.

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Siegfried
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I'm really just having fits about the MIS class I'm taking this semester. It's the program's weed-out and gateway class. Most MIS students change majors because of this class; everyone has to pass this class to go on to the senior level MIS classes. I'm really not feeling the love from it right now. It's three weeks until the midterm and I don't feel like I know enough to pass it based on my performance on the old copies of the exams.

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Omega
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What's the class?

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Siegfried
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The class is called Transactional Processing I. Provided I pass this class this semester, I get to take part two in the spring (which I've been told is a lot easier).

The bulk of the class is client-side web development. HTML, JavaScript, and VBScript are the core of the course, although we also spend a good amount of time on Java applets, CSS, and XML. In addition, we hit the very basics of ASP, ADO, cgi, PERL, PHP, and DHTML.

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Omega
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Ahhh, DHTML. My old nemesis...
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Ritten
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and here I thought that was Jeff....

My friend went from a wanna ba web designer to a router tech for XO, with XO providing the schooling, and makes good money....

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Aban Rune
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I'm ever so glad that I stick with the design side of web development. I'll design you a cool looking, well organized, professional site... but I couldn't code my way out of a plastic bag.

Dreamweaver is my friend.

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TheWoozle
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That's actually the sad aspect. Somebody with Dreamweaver or Frontpage can whip-out a slick-looking web page inna couple days and get the job (for less money then a qualified professional), while an actual schooled professional is still learning how to do it the long way, expecting a top dollar job.. making the same results. I know, that's cynical and a professional can do a lot more, but.. here's the story:

A Highschool friend of mine went a little off the deep end and after getting a BS in Theology, he ran off to find God in Heroin and dissapeared for a decade. LAST YEAR, a mutual friend found him (homeless and scruffy) and cleaned him up, and him Dreamweaver. Within a few months, he got a $50K job, designing web pages. He doesn't know diddly and constantly calls and emails with questions, but he's turning-out results.

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Aban Rune
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Designing webpages? Or churning out cookie cutter crap? There's a difference. I can't code, but working with a programmer, I can still produce a better designed site than an addict with no design skills who learned Dreamweaver. There's a difference between a qualified web site designer and a qualified web site developer.

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Siegfried
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I had an epiphany last night doing massive amounts of samples on building forms and getting VBScript and JavaScript to play nice with them. I think I may actually somewhat kinda sorta understand that at the moment.

I've played around with Frontpage and Dreamweaver before; I didn't really like them too much for reasons I can't put into words very well. **shrug** With time and some frustration, I can get pretty okay looking webpages churned out. The graphics work I completely suck at, but I'm fortunate that my grade in this class isn't based on my artwork.

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Ritten
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Oh, a simple answer to you is: Then don't.

I've played with Dreamweaver and FrontPage, and liked Dreamweaver far, far better. Cleaner coding by far.

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bX
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Go Live, anyone?
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TSN
I'm... from Earth.
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Notepad.
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Omega
Some other beginning's end
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How Microsoft has justified bundling that sorry excuse for a text editor with Windows for a decade now is beyond me. Doesn't even do word wrap properly. Get Metapad.

Of course, if you intend to do any actual coding, Crimson Editor is, like, cool.

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