quote:What about Back to the Future 2? I don't think anyone's mentioned that one. The rehashing of all the jokes from the first one. The fact that they completely ignored one of the "rules" of time travel the set up in the first movie as a major part of the plot for the second (i.e. when you travel to the future, you skip over all that time; thus when Doc took Marty into the future, his children shouldn't have existed because Marty wouldn't have existed for all that time).
The reason it wasn't mentioned was because BttF 2 was a worthy sequel, and a good movie in its own right. Yes, it rehashed the jokes from the first movie, because the whole trilogy is full of running jokes; it's on purpose, and works to good comedic effect. You're right about the fact that Marty and Jennifer shouldn't've existed in 2015 when they got there, but the movies weren't so much about having flawless temporal logic.
Oh, and while Hypercube sucked, Cube Zero was definitely worth seeing.
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Oh yes, with the russians in their traditional F-4E Phantominovs. And how is it that though the american guys were the best of the best pilots for the job, one of them was claustrophobic and bipolar? A lot of egg on face for the US air force.
Speaking of "best of the best", while I don't think "Best of the Best" is one of the great action movies, it had its moments (and James Earl Jones), but those sequels... I watched the second one, where Chris Penn got killed by Wayne Newton in a pit fight tournament (well, his german steroid monster). Just how many times have we heard the phrase "The only rule is THERE ARE NO RULES" in a mortal combat arena? I think TOS-"Amok Time" was the first one.
At least Sonny Landham got to be in it and do something since Predator, although he had to puke in character... By the way, I went to www.SonnyLandham.Com, the opening page is priceless.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: "Not being versed in the canon of Iron Eagle or the Delta Force sagas..."
Iron Eagle II--AWESOME. Iron Eagle III & Iron Eagle IV--not so much.
STILL think Louis Gossett, Jr. would've been a WAY better Joseph Sisko than Brock Peters.
Yeah, but he just turned 70 fucking years old last week- too damn old to really distance the character from Picard's aincent ass.
They missed the VERY worst sequel of all time: Howling IV- The Marsupials. That's right- kangaroo werewolves on a $50 budget. Holy shit- trippin peyote is no excuse for that...thing.
All of the Ghoulies and Critters movies should rank up there (although Critters 3 is Leonardo Dicaprio's laughably bad first movie).
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quote:Originally posted by bX: To that end, I worry that Halloween was underrepresented.
Halloween III: Season of the Witch. One of the worst sequels ever. I mean, where was the witch?
That's because it was never suppoised to be a "Halloween" movie. The movie was just titled "The Season of The Witch" and was a Carpenter stand-alone flick. Rumors abounded about a new Carpenter Halloween movie and the studio tacked that "Halloween 3" crap on there without Carpenter's consent for the name recognition.
Viewed as a stand-alone 80's horror movie, it's pretty good- very original concept.
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: What? When was that established in the first movie?
When Doc demonstrates the Delorean in the parking lot of the mall, he makes a big fuss about how Einstein's watch is exactly one minute behind. "He skipped over that minute to instantaneously arrive at this moment in time."
It would be like Einstein disappearing in the Delorean at 1:03 am and arriving at 1:04 to find the dogfood he threw up at 1:03:30.
Oh... and I saw Hypercube and agree that it blew. I still have no idea what happened. But I've not seen Cube Zero yet. I'm waiting for my wife to go out of town for the weekend, at which point I will do the trilogy.
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Getting around to the eventual turn of the thread, I'd like to nominate 2 for the list of the best sequels:
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
The Godfather: Part II (1974)
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: What? When was that established in the first movie?
When Doc demonstrates the Delorean in the parking lot of the mall, he makes a big fuss about how Einstein's watch is exactly one minute behind. "He skipped over that minute to instantaneously arrive at this moment in time."
It would be like Einstein disappearing in the Delorean at 1:03 am and arriving at 1:04 to find the dogfood he threw up at 1:03:30.
Okay, but can't we therefore assume that the Doc and Marty that got committed / crippled / whatever ARE their future sleves who went through all that fun with the Delorean, went back to their (slightly improved) timelines only to get everything mucked up by Biff? Marty wouldn't have been crippled in the race with Needles had he not gone thorugh all the fun in the first movie and won himself the truck; Doc could easily hae been committed if he'd been through all that mess in 1955 and spewed his theories to everyone in the first place without being tempered by his later 1955 experiences in BTTF3.
Time travel. Tricky business. Unpredictable.
Besides, Doc went through this initial spiel with exactly ONE SUCCESSFUL EXPERIMENT under his belt, that being Einstein. He could have been just wrong with his temporal mechanics to begin with, and covered his mistake with a bunch of new technobabble that Marty couldn't understand anyway.
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According to a knowledgable friend and based on BttF 3, Doc apparently knew nothing about cars. It's quite possible he was BSing other things as well.
I mean, come on. Jiggawatts?
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