posted
I don't know if there's any posters out there that are dealing with this kind of thing, but there's much talk in the local council to ban smoking in all public places here in Saint John. Fredericton, the capital of NB, has already passed the bylaw which will take effect in the spring. I think that the local council is going to wait and see what happens in Fredericton before passing any bylaws here. This would mean that there'd be no smoking in any restaurants or bars in the city. I personally think this is a great idea, but there are a lot of people that are against the idea, smokers and non. What's your opinion on this?
-------------------- I haul cardboard and cardboard accessories
Registered: Mar 1999
| IP: Logged
posted
It is passing through the US also, soon here anyplace that serves food will be smoke free.... except for burnt food....
As long as they don't go overboard and try making it so you can't smoke outside, which I have heard someplaces have tried or done. Forcing people to quit smoking is all they are doing, diesel exhaust is also a carcinegen, so we should force those off the market....
-------------------- "You are a terrible human, Ritten." Magnus "Urgh, you are a sick sick person..." Austin Powers A leek too, pretty much a negi.....
Registered: Sep 2000
| IP: Logged
Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
Member # 33
posted
The world would be better off without cigarette companies.
-------------------- "And slowly, you come to realize, it's all as it should be, you can only do so much. If you're game enough, you could place your trust in me. For the love of life, there's a tradeoff, we could lose it all but we'll go down fighting...." - David Sylvian FreeSpace 2, the greatest space sim of all time, now remastered!
Registered: Mar 1999
| IP: Logged
posted
Delaware passed legislation banning all indoor smoking in public areas last year, and it went into effect about a month ago. From what I've heard some people are still pissed about it, but I'm quite glad. Secondhand smoke irritates the hell out of me; I wish they'd just ban cigarettes completely and be done with it.
-------------------- “Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.” — Isaac Asimov Star Trek Minutiae | Memory Alpha
Registered: Nov 2000
| IP: Logged
posted
So, you want to tell me that I can not smoke in my own home??? WTF...
Joining up with Homeland Security next???
Diesel exhaust is just as bad for you, so you better get those trucks off the road to, since it isn't safe for you.....
-------------------- "You are a terrible human, Ritten." Magnus "Urgh, you are a sick sick person..." Austin Powers A leek too, pretty much a negi.....
Registered: Sep 2000
| IP: Logged
quote:Originally posted by Topher: I don't know if there's any posters out there that are dealing with this kind of thing, but there's much talk in the local council to ban smoking in all public places here in Saint John. Fredericton, the capital of NB, has already passed the bylaw which will take effect in the spring. I think that the local council is going to wait and see what happens in Fredericton before passing any bylaws here. This would mean that there'd be no smoking in any restaurants or bars in the city. I personally think this is a great idea, but there are a lot of people that are against the idea, smokers and non. What's your opinion on this?
I think it's a FANTASTIC idea!! They've banned all smoking in areas where people eat here - but some places you've still got people outside smoking. It's like WTF - hello it travels!
I wish they would ban it in public. I espcially hate how thoughtless idiots chuck cigarette buts out car windows. That's how many bushfires get started.
-------------------- "Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica." - Jim Halpert. (The Office)
quote:Originally posted by Ritten: So, you want to tell me that I can not smoke in my own home??? WTF...
Joining up with Homeland Security next???
Diesel exhaust is just as bad for you, so you better get those trucks off the road to, since it isn't safe for you.....
Well you don't have exhaust fumes just cropping up anywhere and everywhere. Want to get down behind a car and suck in the fumes - that's up to you. Thoughtless bastards who blow their feral smoke over you are everywhere. It's a manners thing - people should retaliate on smokers and fart on them! LOL!
And if you want to smoke at home - make sure it doesn't frigging blow over the fence and into the next door neighbour's house. We had these chain-smokers that used to live next door to us. They'd go outside to smoke, except the smoke just used to blow straight into my fekking room. Bastards.
-------------------- "Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica." - Jim Halpert. (The Office)
quote:Originally posted by Ritten: So, you want to tell me that I can not smoke in my own home??? WTF...
I never said anything about a private home, and I would not approve of such a law anyway -- it would violate the principle of a person's home being their "castle."
However, smoking in any outdoor public areas should be banned as well -- mainly because now that people can't smoke in indoor public spaces, they decide to smoke right outside the front door that I have to go through to get where I'm going -- basically forcing me to be exposed to that same awful, irritating secondhand smoke.
And don't tell me to hold my breath when I walk past. That's annoying as hell.
-------------------- “Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.” — Isaac Asimov Star Trek Minutiae | Memory Alpha
Registered: Nov 2000
| IP: Logged
It's the most un-enforcible law ever. If smokers wish to smoke outside, they will, and they should. Who's gunna stop them? This is a violation of rights, surely.
If this law is to be passed, then all foreign airborn pollutants should be banned - factory smoke for example, car fumes.
quote:Well you don't have exhaust fumes just cropping up anywhere and everywhere.
Er, just go outside anywhere, in any built up area in the world! The pollution is there, everywhere, even though you might not smell it always. And they can be far more dangerous, far more toxic.
quote:Thoughtless bastards who blow their feral smoke over you are everywhere
That's completely different. It is, as you said, a manners thing. If they deliberately blow smoke on you, and you don't like it, it's their thoughtless fault. Punch them. Most sensible people are thoughtful enough to be descrete.
If you don't like it, it's too bad. Catching an occasional smell of smoke on the free airs of the outside world will not hurt you. It may simply be an irritant. As are cellphones. Some things in life just suck. I'm afraid most of us just have to deal with it.
-------------------- "To the Enterprise and the Stargazer. Old girlfriends we'll never meet again." - Scotty
capped
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709
posted
while its obnoxious, i dont think that we should have the government do anything about it.
do you want the gov't to restrain the citizens any more? i dont support many gov't limitations on citizen conduct. this needs to be done on the level of the community, or by the building.. basically, the building's best interest is to make sure that smokers and non-smokers can enter and operate with minimal annoyance.
Registered: Sep 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
Right. We can end the 'smoking in public' problem by good old-fashioned vigilanteism. Who's got the board with a nail in it?
-------------------- "The best defense is not a good offense. The best defense is a terrifyingly accurate and devastatingly powerful offense, with multiply-overlapping kill zones and time-on-target artillery strikes." -- Laurence, Archangel of the Sword
Registered: Mar 1999
| IP: Logged
capped
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709
posted
vigilanteism is hardly the answer.. businesses should want to keep there doors clear for those who want to enter. the knowledge that their policy is losing them money would be more incentive for a building to ban doorway smoking than a government regulation.. public buildings would of course be regulated by a government policy on the matter, but having the government step in and straitjacket private businesses or even worse, private homes, is a fearful concept for me. we need less regulation and more responsibility.
-------------------- "Are you worried that your thoughts are not quite.. clear?"
Registered: Sep 2001
| IP: Logged
posted
If that law was passed where I live I would leave the friggin country. I'm serious. It would be a violation of rights, indicative of a dictatorship. What law would be next? CapMike is correct, this would be quite frightening.
-------------------- "To the Enterprise and the Stargazer. Old girlfriends we'll never meet again." - Scotty
![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic
