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And remember that an honorary degree in marxist revisionist history from Patrice Lamumba university is only good for toliet paper even in Russia now days. You are behind the times a bit. You guys are more fun than a barrel of monkeys. What a bunch of marooneys defending this loser. This wouldn't fly on Geraldo.
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(...and in the name of pinko multilateralism, a picture of an Aussie-rules umpire, because, goshdurnit, they're so bloody cool:)
You, sir, have brightened my day. We'll see if you can kick one from further out a little later on.
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Yea good thing America did not cave to the Japanese and give them the oil they wanted to conquer Australia along with the rest of that part of the world. People forget who their allies were sometimes. Most Australians don't.
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That will have to wait for another thread. And if you doubt the statement about the oil read up on just where all the oil came from back then. Can't believe they did not mention that in the history books. We simply must start a thread on the realities of world history. A clue. What made the German War machine falter at just the right time. And ask your self why the Japanese sacraficed her intire merchant fleet attempting to import oil. Oil was the key. Come on people think.Use your head for something besides a hat rack.
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I'll give you guys time to hit the books. Please don't embarass yourselves too much. The low reguard for historical accuracy here is apalling.
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Oh, I think we're all up for a history quiz.
Matching. Nice and simple. Just like Elementary School. I've got a list of historical bad guys, dictators, leaders of terrorist movements, etc. etc. (if you'd like to pull a Coulter and make the case that one or several are in fact wonderful people smeared by the organized liberal media, be my guest) and I'd like you to please match them with their main state sponsor. Obviously not an exhaustive list.
a) Augusto Pinochet, Chile, 70s-80s b) Mobuto Sese Seko, Zaire, 70s-90s c) The Shah, Iran, 70s d) Pol Pot, Cambodia, 70s-80s e) Saddam Hussein, Iraq, 80s f) Adolfo Calero, Nicaragua, 80s g) Manuel Noriega, Panama, 80s h) Jonas Savimbia, Angola, 80s-90s i) Nicolai Ceauceauscu, Romania, 80s-90s j) Suharto, Indonesia, 60s-90s k) House of Saud, Saudi Arabia, 30s- l) Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan, 00s-
i. U.S.S.R. ii. P.R.C. iii. U.S.A. iv. U.S.A. v. U.S.A. vi. U.S.A. vii. U.S.A. viii. U.S.A. ix. U.S.A. x. U.S.A. xi. U.S.A. xii. U.S.A.
I'd be happy to post the answers afterwards.
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Hey since we gave aid to the U.S.S.R. we have either directly or indirectly given aid to every wacko on your list. I'll let you supply the details. One moment while I double check to see if you missed any. And while you fill in the details add who brought them down when the time came.Ps.did you forget Castro? really dude We have given aid to practicaly every government on this planet at one time or another. Our enemies as well as our allies.
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Am I to take this as an excuse for supporting terrorist? Oh yeah we have also given aid to China Mao As well as Chaing and both North as well as south vietnam back when it was still Indo China. Americans fought against Franco. Fought for and against Panco Villa . there are not enough pages to list the bad choices we have made or the good ones. While you are at it add the PRC USSR UK and most other countries to almost if not all those names.Like I've never run into this crap before. Shame on you thought you had some class.
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Somehow this thread has become a discussion of Japanese oil in World War II?
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It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list by any means. But I think we have established that America, like pretty much every nation, has in the past made mistakes and supported some pretty crappy people. That isn't revisionist history. What's revisionist is when you ignore your nation's own history of past foreign idiocy and instead start up with the USA! ALL TEH WAY!1! bullshit.
Want to stop terrorists? Stop arming them. Sure, they won't be as well able to blow up your enemies real good, but at least you get the assurance they won't be as well able to turn around and try to blow you up, or slaughter their own people, or any of those wonderful things that go on in this world.
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There's so much stuff screaming out at me from my monitor, but a quick list comprises of:
"China Mao"
Convenient name, I suppose. Good thing it wasn't made a rule, otherwise that bloke behind the videogame "Alice" would be running the US now. Although that would be interesting. "Britain Blair" sounds like the worst alter-ego Stan Lee never came up with.
"This wouldn't fly on Geraldo."
I'm tempted to post something like: "surely the ultimate in moral arbritation ever", but I think I'll stick with the following.
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"When you have found the answer to ,how to deal with terrorist, that does not involve the extermination of said terrorist. The world will raise a pyramid in your honor."
Again, I'm tempted to go with "Well, maybe not carpet bombing countries for decades at a time while donating money to aid terrorism", but I think I'll again go with that old standby:
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Even though I probably shouldn't even be speaking to bad, horrible, shameful Tom, how can the House of Saud and Pervez Musharraf, be on the list?
The are our allies against terror aren't they? Either they are for us or against us. Isn't that the way it's supposed to go now?
Of course you know that's just sarcasm.
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