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Saltah'na
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All of you must have heard about the Dixie Chicks criticizing President Bush. All of you must have heard about Radio Stations in the U.S. boycotting Dixie Chicks en masse. (This isn't happening here, they are still playing at the Staples I'm at now)

The Dixie Chicks say that they were expressing freedom of speech. So also say the Radio stations, they are outraged and they won't play them.

What then, do you say about this?
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/headline/entertainment/1898145

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Gvsualan
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Reminds me of days when Nixon had his little 'black list' of songs he wanted to ban radio stations from playing...fortunately Bush isn't so sinister...yet this time around the radio stations are...did Bush ever comment on what the Dixie Chicks said?


On the lighter side:
Reminds me of the time on 'Futurama'...(not to advertise)...where he is running for 'President of Earth'...and hes on stage singing "White Rabbit"...as his way of synching with the hippies... [Big Grin]

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Wraith
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quote:
fortunately Bush isn't so sinister
I dunno about that; Department of Homeland Security has a rather Orwellian tone to it.
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Veers
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I think Bush said he didn't care what they said, because "they can say whatever they want." But he also said that he hasn't seen much of the anti-war public being jumped on or attacked or repressed. Which is complete BS, because we have seen all through the course of the war that people that are anti-war are ripped apart by people on the pro-war side.

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Cartman
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"So also say the Radio stations..."

Freedom of censorship.

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First of Two
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You'll also notice that no public library owns a copy of every book in existence.

That's the difference between the right to speak, which exists, and the right to be heard, which does not.

A radio station is not obliged to play any artist's songs.

Just as a consumer is not obliged to buy their album or listen to them on the radio. Or listen to a station that plays them.

Just as a publisher is not obligated to publish an author's work (even one under contract,) as long as they get paid.

Just as not every story whose movie rights are bought by Hollywood actually gets made into a film.

Some poor deluded fools think they have the right to dissent, but nobody else has the right to dissent with their dissent.

The radio station was fully within their right sto suspend someone for violating policy, just as any other organization would do to any other employee.

Whether or not you agree with the policy is between you and the radio station. You don't have to listen to them either, you know.

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Jay the Obscure
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Problem is that thanks to Republican relaxing rules on regulating media and what companies can own what broadcast and pring media where, if a Clear Channel decides to stop playing something then it won't get heard at all in places.

And it might not get picked up by the news station which is also owned by the big monopoly.

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First of Two
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Then you can buy the album.

Y'know, I have 18 channels programmed into the radio of my car, and only 2 are Clearchannel stations. I don't think, with the proliferation of radio stations (11,915 of them [in 1998]), that your ability to hear what you want to hear at some point is in any danger except in the most remote areas.

Although come to think of it, I NEVER hear Tori Amos on the radio since I left college (and it's attendant station) behind. And there's absolutely no boycott against her. Or Weird Al, for that matter.

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Cartman
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Of course, when almost every corporate-owned radio station shares the political views and values of the corporate-controlled administration...

The irony is extra bitter because said stations are contributing to the same practice they sooo radically oppose.

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First of Two
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quote:
almost every corporate-owned radio station shares the political views and values of the corporate-controlled administration...
except the NPR, the college campus stations, etc etc etc... I love these rampant generalizations with positively no coroborrating data...

This parrot is deceased! It has ceased to be!

Domo Arigato, Mister Roboto.

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I support wholeheartedly a stoppage of Dixie Chicks music over the radio, but not for the aforementioned reasons.

I mean, the little one? I want to kick her in her neck, or something. She sounds like what those saws sounds like when people play them like an instrument. All warbly and sawlike.

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Cartman
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And of those thousands of college & other stations, how many have NATIONAL coverage?

That's the whole point, the *freedom* to hear what you want to hear, which people in remote areas do NOT have.

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Sol System
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I can't even listen to my college's radio station on the internet. Thanks muchly, Congress.
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First of Two
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quote:
FREEDOM to hear what you want to hear.
The what?

This is one of those freedoms delineated in "the freedom to make up freedoms," isn't it?

Like the freedom to throw pies at public figures and the freedom to dance in the middle of the Interstate during rush hour?

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Nim
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That's "prance", First, I tink you got it all hindwards.
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