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I'm just say I can tell my children I was there when America became a theocracy.
Assuming the church allows a heretic like me to have a family, that is....
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I think I'm a heretic too. Maybe I should douse myself in gasoline and light a Cohiba.
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I think you people misinterpret what Bush is saying. He is not saying Gays shouldn't allowed to be married. He's merely saying he doesn't want it called MARRIAGE. That is the debate currently going on in Massachusetts, wether or not the legal joining of two people of the same sex is a union or a marriage.
Yes, it would be nice if we could all call it marriage, but he isn't saying gays can never be joined. So really, I don't think he's doing much of anything wrong by saying this. It's merely a technicality of words.
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It's NOT merely a technicality of wording: Married couples get better tax breaks, joined legal status (for emergency medical desisions and probate purposes) and most of all, the protction from idiotic and arcane laws that still stand in many states to discriminate aganst gays (sodomy and lewdness laws being the most common). There is also the question of personal pride i being married to whoever you love and not just "a couple" forever. I sure wouldnt accept any government telling me that I can't marry a woman I love so why would I accept them telling other americans that they can't be legally bonded to their partner?
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How about a scenario where homosexual couples can be legally joined, but not called a marriage? I've heard some people proposing that such a couple could receive the same rights as any heterosexual couple, yet it would not be called a marriage, but rather a civil union. They simply want the name "marriage" to be reserved for a man and a woman. Spousal rights are the last thing on their minds.
I mentioned this in the other thread. Same spousal rights, different name. What you think?
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exectly what "married" legal statuses (stati?) can gay couples not get? One can arrange for transfer of legal authority (in event of evergency,) distribution of property in event of death (a will), and probably just about anything else a lawyer will accept money for doing.
"Marriage penalty" = better tax break?
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Tax status & (most important probably) insurance coverage.
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Legal aknowledgment of their union. ...and the "marriage penalty" only applies in some tax brackets. In may ways married couples get preferred treatment: from buying a house to opening your own business: legally married couples are considered a better financial risk on loans etc.
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Always a good way to start the day. ....and breakfast, of course.
.....oral sex is good too.
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