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Jeff, two things. 1. dude? And 2. He didn't say anything wrong. Cartman posted a frankly rude message for people who are religious, and MM, responsed with, essentially, "that's a bit strong. " If it it had been the other way around you would be spitting bullets.
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Okay, the current EU is a bureaucratic nightmare and completely undemocratic (European Parliament? Who the hell are those people?), and now the church is trying to get involved. Apparently, they want christianity to be somehow different from the other religions, by including it in the new EU constitution. I'm sure all those newbie Eastern European states are only too happy about that. Let's just hope the big three can hold it off.
I agree with you completely. However, as I understand it there is a bit in the new Constitution (which is by no means a just a tidying up exercise) which basically summarises the history of Europe (no, I don't know why it's in there) and which makes no mention of Christianity. Now, whatever your views on the church you have to agree that is just a tiny little ommission .
Incidentally economic ties are good (although not necessarily a single currency), political ties are unnecessary! The EU is disturbingly undemocratic and it is worrying how much power it (especially the Commission) have and how little people realise it. For example the recent change to directory inquiries numbers in the UK was the result of a directive from Brussels.
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And the directory numbers change is the worst thing that's ever happened! Why, the price has come down and everthing! How dare we stand for this?
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I wasn't actually complaining about it, just giving it as an example of something most people don't know is Brussels ordered. And some of them are actually more expensive (118 888 is the best- or just use the online one).
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"Cartman posted a frankly rude message for people who are religious..."
I am truly sorry, darling, but I find the very idea of elevating ANY religion above the secular status of the constitution repulsive and, frankly, a lot more insulting to people who aren't religious than my message was to people who are.
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Personaly I'm not all that keen on religion.I do my best to look at things as a christian but I fall a bit short even in my own eyes. The thing that I was trying to get at was using a little common sense in realising that religion is not going to just go away.Also if it did whats to replace it? As far as the organized religions go they are corrupt,no doubt about that.Jesus was a great man in anyones book.The evil done in his name by fanatics doesn't change that.Carry on with the disscussion.Maybe some good will come of it.P.S.Not good at quoting scripture but Christ did say his kingdom was not of this world.Government should not be a reigion,and vice versa.
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The Vatican isn't even part of the EU. Maybe the pope should sit down and shut his stupid, beanie-wearing face.
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Cartman: No, but what you posted wasn't too far from childish name calling. Come on, you can come up with intellgent arguments. There's no need to drop down to "their" level and start insulting people.
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To clear up the language thing.Aramaic was a trade language with greek roots.It was a common tongue for merchants and scholars at the time and I believe most of the writting of the apostles was in Aramaic.Jesus was from Nazereth.A contemporary description by a Roman Merchant said he had light brown hair,And if I remember correctly grey or blue-grey eyes.The stereotypical Jewish appearance did not exist in the Gene pool at the time.In fact few of the racial characteristics of the modern middle east are the same as they were then.
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