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It's the first time they've pulled this shit since the EU got rolling though. If France can sell weapons to China, then all of the EU can. So UN restrictions and resolutions are even more pointless.
Greeeeaaat.
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NO we sure arent....but for France to sell China weapons is to contradict all their prior UN rethoric about human rights violations.
France's position a EU leader makes the decision to sell all the more dubious. Who can really veto them if they decide to sell to China or anyone else? Do the other EU members have any say in what is sold to potential EU enimies?
What are the checks and balances in the EU?
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On paper every member has an equal say in EU affairs, but in practice all the strings are pulled by Germany, France, and Britain (and Italy and Spain to a lesser degree), so you can forget about anything being vetoed unless it harms any of those nations' interests, which are, of course, predominantly economic in nature too.
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Sweet: A charter member of anti-communist NATO is intrested in selling weapons to strengthen one of the few Communist countries left.
Money talks and old treaties walk, eh?
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quote: It's the first time they've pulled this shit since the EU got rolling though
Depends how you define 'got rolling'. The original European Community thing (iron and steel, I think), was set up in 1957. So they have definitely done it since then! Exocet, anyone?
The EU wouldn't stop it anyway; France and Germany control the whole thing. They never pay any attention to the dircetives, etc issued by Brussels. Just look at the Growth and Stability [sic] Pact.
quote: What are the checks and balances in the EU?
Eurocrats in Brussels produce vast numbers of pointless laws that increase red tape exponentially and further their aim of a European superstate. France, Germany and their allies proceed to do as they wish. We get screwed over.
quote: And the Europeans will come crying to the US to help them when their own weapons are returned in a less amicable fashion
Why would China declare war on any European nation? And please, never, ever lump all Europe together as one unit again. As you may have noticed, Eurpean nations are still independant, despite the best efforts of some in Brussels and will react in different ways; look at Iraq.
quote: Or worse... They'll start supplying both Pakistan and India
The Uk already does, although we prefer India. They have more money. We also train officers from both armies.
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Funny to think that France and Germany are supposed to control the EU. Here in Germany at least the feeling of the general public is that Brussels is controlling everything from milk quotas to what color toilet paper in offices has to have. Fucking Eurocrats. I share the general feeling in Germany that these money-wasters should be shot to the moon...
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"Money talks and old treaties walk, eh?"
Yeah, just ask Bush.
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quote:Originally posted by Wraith: [QB] Why would China declare war on any European nation? And please, never, ever lump all Europe together as one unit again. As you may have noticed, Eurpean nations are still independant, despite the best efforts of some in Brussels and will react in different ways; look at Iraq.
Why would I do that which Europe has done for itself so effectively? Sorry, but EVERYONE answers to the WORLD BANK. And it is always the bankers that order the world.
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Quote Monty Python: "Other News: an atomic bomb has just been dropped in Belgium. Most of the country is now a barren wasteland. Life for most Belgians continues as normal..."
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quote: Why would I do that which Europe has done for itself so effectively? Sorry, but EVERYONE answers to the WORLD BANK. And it is always the bankers that order the world.
Uh... OK. Refering to Europe as if it is one country is just something that irritates me. It is inaccurate and unhelpful. I sincerly doubt there is some World Bank inspired plot to take over the world
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Belgium has Van Damme, dammit. And he, being from the only European state that was ever overrun and invaded TWICE last century by the Germans (who, as all vicious predators do, instinctively prey upon the weaker before attacking the stronger), not because of any merit of its own but because the country was less trouble to conquer than going around it was and is thus considered wimpier than FRANCE (even if this reputation is in fact not deserved by the Belgians (anybody who can get Indiana Jones to join THEIR army can't be that pathetic (and yes, I just nested parentheses))), is now immune to EVERYTHING.
The Chinese will have a tough fight ahead of them.
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