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Let's see....British companies were selling Iraq the materials and technologies to build a "Super Gun" that would have been able to fire artillery shells into Israel.
The French and Russians were selling Iraq a...well... a complete armory.
The Chinese were selling Iraq missiles and tech.
Sounds to me like these countries HAD their share of business dealings in Iraq. To bad about that regime not being able (or around!) to pay for all that stuff.
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Yeah. Still, even if Iraq wasnt toppled, they wouldnt have paid dick anyway: Saddam was sinking the country into a black hole of debt to keep himself in power.
Conversly, the US has sunk itself into a simmlar hole to topple Saddam.
Funny thing is, if Mexico could just paid back what it owes us, we'd probably be back in a surplus again! Man, we give away too damn much....and knowing we'll never get any it that back.
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quote:Originally posted by WizArtist: Let's see....British companies were selling Iraq the materials and technologies to build a "Super Gun" that would have been able to fire artillery shells into Israel.
The French and Russians were selling Iraq a...well... a complete armory.
The Chinese were selling Iraq missiles and tech.
Sounds to me like these countries HAD their share of business dealings in Iraq. To bad about that regime not being able (or around!) to pay for all that stuff.
Such amazing ignorance. No mention of the decade-and-a-half of US support for Saddam.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: So you warned us, sat in judgment of us, decided that you wanted nothing to do with the whole situation, sent no troops, congradualted us when we toppeled the dictatorship and again when we caught saddam, and are now upset that you're not being given the spoils of a war you condemned.
No, more like: "we" warned you, then you judged "US" for daring to issue such warnings, boldly ignored them and did your regime change thing anyway, hit a bit of a snag, begged "us" for help which "we" were still willing to lend in spite of your poor manners, and THEN you came up with this haughty "ploy" just to teach "us" a "lesson" for "condemning" you. Can "we" AT LEAST say "arrogance" here?
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quote:Originally posted by Lee: Such amazing ignorance. No mention of the decade-and-a-half of US support for Saddam.
Such amazing ignorance. No mention of the much more recent twelve-years of US opposition to Saddam.
It takes real effort to overlook that.
Next you'll be saying that it's inconsistent of us to be sending this earthquake assistance to Iran.
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Well, at least you're being a consistent idiot
How about this Rob? How about it is inconsistent of the US to pat a dictator on the back for fifteen years and tell him "good job", and then all of a sudden point a gun at his face and say "Sorry bud, need the boost in polls", and then when Junior decides he needs a boost in polls over a decade later, oh look, the Bush family's favorite whipping dog is still wandering around Iraq.
Oh, yes, and then it IS very inconsistent to say "Wow, look, we're a model of virtue, and a big shiny city on a hill. Woohoo!"
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I'd say consistant bad decisions are a Bad Thing. Inconsistant good decisions are preferable. But that's just me.
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Well, I suppose if six years of Rob's interminable Clinton-whining is enough to excuse the fact that he voted for him in the first place, then anything goes, eh? 8)
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: So you warned us, sat in judgment of us, decided that you wanted nothing to do with the whole situation, sent no troops, congradualted us when we toppeled the dictatorship and again when we caught saddam, and are now upset that you're not being given the spoils of a war you condemned.
No, more like: "we" warned you, then you judged "US" for daring to issue such warnings, boldly ignored them and did your regime change thing anyway, hit a bit of a snag, begged "us" for help which "we" were still willing to lend in spite of your poor manners, and THEN you came up with this haughty "ploy" just to teach "us" a "lesson" for "condemning" you. Can "we" AT LEAST say "arrogance" here?
It's arrogance to expect our closest ally to side with us? M'kay.....
Canada's just going with whatever the general consensus wants instead of backing us up. Even with all the snide and stupid remarks between Bush and your PM, the general attitude towards each other has really sucked. Bush comes off as imperilistic and your PM (name escaped me at work) comes off as petulant and frankly, advasarial in the american press.
Mabye we'll get lucky and replace both administrations with ones that want to work together....
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quote:your PM (name escaped me at work) comes off as petulant and frankly, advasarial in the american press.
I am shocked and appalled that something as political as the demeanour of a foreign world leader, one who opposes certain American actions, could be represented in such a way so as to villify. Petulant and adversarial? Next you will tell me that Canadian media plays Bush Jr. as dumb, or that, say Muslim extremests consider him evil.
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"It's arrogance to expect our closest ally to side with us?"
Well, yes. If you're doing something wrong, you shouldn't expect your allies to support you, just because they're allies. I mean, if someone looks at you funny, and you tell your best friend "hey, hold that guy down while I beat the shit out of him", your friend shouldn't do it just because you're friends.
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I thought that the UK was the US's cloest ally?
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