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G2k: Do you work for Fox News, or something? Did you even watch the same debate I did? I didn't see any of what you're talking about. Kerry was making coherent, sensible, consistent statements. When Bush wasn't rolling his eyes or doing the old deer-in-headlights stare, he was mostly repeating catch-phrases.
Seriously, even Republicans are complaining about Bush's poor showing. What's this "by not getting gutter-stomped Bush won the battle"? Isn't that like when someone loses a sports game 42 to 1, and you say "well, since they didn't get shut-out, it was really a victory"?
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Well, TSN, Dick Morris seems to agree with him. If Clinton's own Karl Rove says it, I wouldn't dismiss it as too whacky to be believable.
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It's also in the New York Post, which means one should almost automatically dismiss it out of hand.
Not to mention that the very first sentence proves that he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
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Tim, even Fox News says that Kerry did well and Bush didn't.
G2k clearly works for NewsMax...
To be fair, from just listening to the debate, it isn't nearly as a "clear win" for Kerry. Bush sounded much better than he ended up looking. I listened from work and on the way home, but didn't see clips until later that night...
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quote:PRESIDENT Bush's positions on the issues aired in the debate last night are so sound and John Kerry's so contradictory that the Republican could not help but win the debate.
Gobels is looking up from hell -with admiration- at this guy's ability to twist the truth.
It's laughable.
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Jason: Did you mean Joseph Goebbels? He's my all-time demagogue superstar! "The task of propaganda must always be to appeal to the instinct of the masses, not the intellect".
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Yes I did mean Goebbels. I try not to be too familliar with the man as he sickens me.
I may try the SA drinking game come Tuesday's debate...
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Ah, so those who say "I don't think there really was a winner, to be honest, but by not getting gutter-stomped Bush won the battle" are propagandists?
Fascinating.
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I was referring to (and quoting) Dick Morris of the Post actually. TO say "I think there was no winner" is a far cry from the clearly propoganda piece his little editorial is.
Dont be so touchy!
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If we have to dismiss everything Dick Morris says in the New York Post, does this mean we have to dismiss everything Al Hunt says in the WSJ as right-wing claptrap?
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"...attaining one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the pinnacle of excellence. Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence."
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I dismiss everything except the voices in my head: they have a plan. They mentioned you specifically, David.
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I'm glad to know I've enriched people's lives here at Flare. Hopefully for good. If for evil, maybe that's not so bad.
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"...attaining one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the pinnacle of excellence. Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence."
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War, 6th century B.C.E.
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"Ah, so those who say 'I don't think there really was a winner, to be honest, but by not getting gutter-stomped Bush won the battle' are propagandists?"
Well, considering that that statement is more contradictory than even Kerry is accused of being...
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I think what he was trying to get at there was that neither Kerry nor Bush had a zinger, but that Bush still came out ahead with only a slightly diminished lead in the electoral vote. (A good site that updates daily, and run by a liberal, is Electoral Vote.) His polls went down some, but considering that Bush was losing the expectations game before the debate (i.e., talk yourself down so you look good by comparison), he did better than bad since he did not lose on every measure of the debates.
-------------------- "Warfare is the greatest affair of state, the basis of life and death, the Tao to survivial or extinction. It must be thoroughly pondered and analyzed."
"...attaining one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the pinnacle of excellence. Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence."
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War, 6th century B.C.E.
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