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Jason Abbadon
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Better pack hollowpoints to shop Super K here.
Mercury-filled ones at that.


I'm pretty certain the designers of Doom III watched security tapes from the Oakland Park Super K when making the harder levels.

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Hobbes
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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
Anyway, I'm curious about what you said, Hobbes, about Wal-Mart and their vendors. Are you saying that Wal-Mart tells them "okay, we'll pay you $50 for that product", and then, when the vendor delivers the product, Wal-Mart says "okay, thanks, and here's the $25 we owe you"? And that the vendors actually sign contracts ahead of time, allowing Wal-Mart to do that?

Yes. For the vendor they think they're going to make money instead of getting screwed. So what happens is that 5 companies go to a vendor for the same thing, but when Walmart changes the buying price from the vendor they can sell it for less which causes shoppers to go there over Walmart's competition.

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TSN
I'm... from Earth.
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So, the vendor signs a contract that says "Wal-mart, after agreeing on a price, can actually pay you whatever, if anything, they feel like, bitch", and they don't expect to get screwed?

If true, this is one of those instances where I think some sort of non-zero-sum punishment is required. Wal-mart should get in trouble for it, but the vendors shouldn't really get any restitution, since they were pretty much asking for it.

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PsyLiam
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And, presumably, they keep doing it. Which makes the vendors even more stupid.

If Wal-mart are breaking a contract, then they're breaking the law, and the vendors should be taking them to court. If, as Tim says, they are signing a contract asking Wal-mark to screw them, then they've got no recourse at all.

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Aban Rune
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Problem is, if they stop bending over for Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart will just stop buying from them altogether. And the vendors probably don't want to be without their business.
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Ritten
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Which really sounds stupid.

Would you keep designing art for someone that did that to you?

With the competition there is out there, Super K, Meijers, Shopko, Target, and the multitude of malls, there isn't a vendor of any reasonable size that can not do without Wal Mart. Hell, sell to one of the others for $35 per unit and tell Walton to go frag himself.

Springfield, IL, did a study, when Wally World wanted to put in a second store on the west side, on how many smaller businesses went under in the areas that they placed stores. It was enough to counter their argument, We'll be making new jobs. Springfield and Sangamon County both said, nope, you'll be transferring jobs from the existing businesses to yours, but will not create any new ones. It's been a while since I've been back to see how things turned out, but the city, county, and a lot of people were against the new store.

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Austin Powers
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Thank god I live in Germany - the one country where Wal-Mart tried to "do their thing" and failed miserably. Yeah for German competition! [Razz] [Big Grin]

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Nim
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BAH! And as thanks you sent over your "LIEDL" gruppenguys into Sweden, pushing out our regular grocery chains with genuine swedish raw materials in favor of your "Curry Ketchup" and gigantic green "multiVitaminen Juice" cartons, for half the price. You-you Hippocrates!

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Fabrux
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quote:
Originally posted by Ritten:
With the competition there is out there, Super K, Meijers, Shopko, Target, ...

Not in Canada. Just about the only competition left for Wal-Mart around these parts now is Zellers. And they have the disadvantage of having shit stores (that I've seen, anyways).

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Ritten
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Regulating Wally World to the 51ST state is okay with me.....

Is that true for all of Canada? If so, that sucks big time.... Hope you can frequent the small stores, mom-n-pop places.

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PsyLiam
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But they charge more!

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Mucus
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Just a note, from his profile, "these parts" means New Brunswick which hardly speaks for all of Canada.
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Sol System
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I don't really like my place in this discussion, because I don't go around ranting about the evils of Wal-Mart or consumer culture in general. I like buying things. I have perfectly internalized the message that possessions will make me happy. Not three days ago I was in Wal-Mart buying some pastries. (And nearly some DVDs.) But. . .
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With the competition there is out there, Super K, Meijers, Shopko, Target, and the multitude of malls, there isn't a vendor of any reasonable size that can not do without Wal Mart.
This isn't really true for all products. Wal-Mart bears a similar relation to some markets as Texas and California do to the textbook market. That is, they buy so many that they are able to dictate certain terms in some cases.

(I won't buy doughnuts at Wal-Mart, though, because I'm ideologically opposed to their anti-Pacific Northwestern naming scheme.)

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Fabrux
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So I have a slightly skewed view of Canada...

On another note, today is Buy Nothing day, or some such thing.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
(I won't buy doughnuts at Wal-Mart, though, because I'm ideologically opposed to their anti-Pacific Northwestern naming scheme.)

And what is that?

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