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FYI, I live in Virginia Beach, VA, only about a twenty minute drive from CBN and Pat Robertson's cronies. I am happy to say that the Christian Coalition has recently announced their planned departure from Chesapeake (not sure where they are going). That group has had a stranglehold on politics here for several years. While I am all too happy to see Republicans taking over the state house and senate for the first time in decades, I am not happy that the CC and their ultraconservative cronies were behind it. That group is not generally known for tollerance and progressive attitudes. I think most locals will be happy to see them leave.
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>"Under any circumstances, a woman shouldn't marry a man like that in the first place."
Ah, yes, the old 'blame the victim' standby.
I thought the moral rule was 'he got her pregnant, he HAS to marry her'?
Of course, then the blame just reverts to the mistake in having a knee-trembler with the guy in the first place... and so on, and so on, and so on... blame, blame, blame...
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I didn't SAY it was her fault. Stop jumping to conclusions.
I said she could have avoided the situation. Marying a man like that is a mistake.
And if a woman is pregnant out of wedlock, and the father is like you described, then she'd be better off not getting married. Better only one parent than one stable one and one dangerously unstable one. But again, sleeping with someone to whom you are not married is a mistake. So the mother did make mistakes. She could have avoided the entire situation. She may be a victim, but not entirely. She didn't have the situation forced upon her, as she had control of her life, and she chose poorly.
Ladies and gentlemen, the above statements are only the opinions of the poster. If you don't agree, that's your call.
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Of course everyone knows how to make "right" decisions all the time. That is without factoring in abusive families, lack of self-confidence and self-esteem, peer pressure, desire to fit in, rebellion, or, heck, just different convictions.
------------------ --Then, said Cranly, do you not intend to become a protestant? --I said that I had lost the faith, Stephen answered, but not that I had lost self-respect. What kind of liberation would that be to forsake an absurdity which is logical and coherent and to embrace one which is illogical and incoherent?
James Joyce, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.
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"That is without factoring in abusive families, lack of self-confidence and self-esteem, peer pressure, desire to fit in, rebellion, or, heck, just different convictions."
None of that should have any affect on her making the right decision (except maybe different convictions). What's right is right, and your past life can't excuse you from your present mistakes. Unless, of course, your parents were so neglectful as to not inform you that sleeping with someone not your spouse can have unwanted side effects. If you don't KNOW what's right and what's wrong, THEN you might have an excuse.
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But First, that IS what happens. According to Omega, that's why corprorations are supposed to make the decisions, because people who run them are by and large perfect. The only people who are make wrong decisions are elected officials.
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Actually, First, I can give you two more possibilities, both of which are far more likely. One: DT is, once again, assuming things that have no basis in reality and only a very tenuous connection to what I actually said. Two: he's lying through his teeth to make me look bad. Since he persists in such activities, even in private discussions, I can only conclude that his objective is not to make me look bad. Thus, he simply doesn't get it. He assumes things based on nothing.
DT, if you can give me one quote that indicates that I think that CEO's are infallible, I'll leave Flare.
What I said was that people will invariably mess up sooner or later, and probably sooner. There's no way to avoid it. The best situation for someone to mess up in is where their mistake has as little effect as possible on others. A company making a mistake only results in a few hundred people loosing their jobs, which can be relativly easily re-obtained. An all-controling government making a mistake, however, screws the whole country, and forces 5,000,000 people to go to Canada to find jobs. It's better for the power over the corporation to be in the hands OF the corporation when the mistake is made.
/tangent
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Exxon has made a few mistakes which effect a bit more then a few hundred people. Heck, so has Microsoft. Just one of the problems with size. A tiny government or company is limited in how much damage it can do. Of course, it can also never go to the moon or build national infrastructures. Priorities, I suppose.
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