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*Staggers* Christ. Australians go to university free. (Well almost). All we have to provide are books for ourselves. And $20-$30 k per year for a private school is scandalous. The most expensive ones here are US 10k p.a.
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Keep in mind, though, that scholarships generally insure that the only people who pay that much are the ones who can afford it.
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And the ones who can't afford it? I mean, $30,000? To get educated in the US? Pah, You could cmove to Oxford, and still save money. Even after you then deceide to move to Cambridge, where it's much more fun.
BTW Sol, scratch that. I didn't actually pay fees, so I got it wrong. It's about �200 x 3. For King's college London, quite a good uni.
Still, you have to pay to get X-ray'd. You have to pay to get educated. No wonder the majority of the people in your country are either dying or stupid.
(Notice: Liam's statements are not actually backed up by any provable facts. None at all. Although they are probably true.)
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When I went to American River (junior) College, as a state resident, I only had to pay for books & parking space (if I needed it). Of course, that was only a 2-year institution, and my parents were providing room & board (it was within walking distance of their house).
If I had lived farther away, I might have had to get a job to earn rent & food, and it would've begun to cost something once I finished there and went to a REAL college, but then the first two years of a four (or five) year program would've been almost free.
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Liam: The institutions that have a $30,000/yr tuitions also have wealthy patrons who provide millions of dollars for scholarships for non-wealthy students.
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My tuition at USC is about $34,702--that's including estimates for room & board and living expenses. My mom earns about $50,000 a year, so I qualified for Federal aid. From the Feds I get about $14,500--$9,420 from Cal Grant (which I get for being a CA resident, poor enough, and have a high enough GPA), $2500 in Fed Work-Study (which colleges love because the gov't pays part of my wage so they get cheap labor), and $2,625 in subsidized loan. USC is giving me a grant of $12,553 which I don't have to pay back. That comes out to $7,600 that I have to pay, and my parents are supposed to pay most of that because I'm still a dependent. My parents currently pay about $5400 a year for my school, so my mom didn't think it was that bad (since she thought she wasn't going to get any aid). Still, maybe it'll be nice to move to England.
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Here in Ireland, all EU residents are entitled to free third-level education as of 1996 (I think). The onlyt thing I have to pay is a �250 Tuition Fee at the beginning of the year.
And if you're eligible for it (which I'm not *fume*), you can apply for a Grant worth �1,500 a year. Sweet, eh?
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Okay, it's actually, �1050 a year, which can be paid in installments, for ALL universities.
Tuition fees were actually only introduced in 1997, under Labour, after one of their election promises was to never charge people for university education. Tsk.
Currently, Oxford and the other snobs are lobbying parliment to allow universities to set their own tuition fees. This of course, would mean that Oxford would rase it's fee levels, so that it becomes even more of an elitist place thanit is now. This would not be a good thing.
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I was, in fact, confusing you with Tahna Los.
(The gender of Bajoran names is not readily apparent to me).
You are both west of me, and I sometimes get Canada and California confused, since they both begin with "C".
(That last bit is a blatant lie, but I'm still trying to cover my embarrassment over this gaffe, so humor me, huh?)
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Even more, they both start with Ca and end with a.
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Well Tora, I can sympathize with you. Try living at home while in the closet, and instead of dealing with a father you can't stand try my closed-minded mother for a week.
But still you can always move out when you can support yourself.
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It's just too bad the Government allots more for students who still live with their parents than those who live alone (by choice or otherwise.) I had to find this out the hard way. When I started College, I still lived with my mother ($300/ month rent, providing own food, transportation {feet-I didn't have a license}, and still abiding by the family rules) Financial Aid paid for my entire tuition, because my mothers income was reported.
Needless to say, I moved. Without any help from my parents, I was forced to live on my own. (after two years of living on my own money while living with my mother, it was easy.) However, since her income has no effect on me, the government is balking at my Financial Aid app (balking even louder, because my mother is now making too much money for me to qualify for Financial Aid.) I still receive no help from my parents, yet FA will not pay for my schooling. So as to your statement, Frank, the ones paying for it aren't only the ones who can afford it, it's the ones who cannot get Financial Aid for any reason (And yes, I've considered loans, but I may never get a good enough job to ever pay them back.)
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It's true that not everyone who needs financial aid gets it, yes. I was mostly talking about private colleges, though, which have their own aid policies and generally make sure that they can pay for all the students they accept.
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