Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
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Lemme Guess. The Communism that we have here shouldn't even be considered as communism at all. Same with socialism, huh?
Well, so what kind of government does China and Cuba have. I'm not asking if it is a dictatorship, but if it is not communism, what is it? Same with Socialism.
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All the all-controling governments are effectively the same. It's just a matter of what tyrany the dictator likes at the moment. They're all Hell.
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Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
Member # 33
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All levels of government are hell and conservatism and capitalism are the ONLY TRUE forms of government, right?
If so, let's start by killing all the commie bastards and anyone who's liberal. I ..... uh...... oops...... I'm liberal right?....... gotta stop putting foot in mouth...... *runs like hell*
Let me put it to you this way. I don't like conservatism and Capitalism. I don't like what they do and what they try to do to others. But then, Socialism isn't that great either. I see its flaws as well. Liberalism is probably a combination of both evils. It TOO has it flaws.
No form of government is perfect, Omega. That's democracy.
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[This message has been edited by Tahna Los (edited August 03, 2000).]
OK Omega. Visit Germany. (Or Saskatchewan, if it's more convienient). Then tell me if the socialist governments in those places are "all-controlling."
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I live in Saskatchewan. I'm typing this from my one-floor mud adobe, with a make-shift power generator powering my computer. I shit in my own mouth to make food. This socialism is Hell. Absolute.
Anyway, that's not why I posted. The_Tom, did you see Byrne on Kilborne? Is that where you got it from?(your sig that is.)
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He was on Conan, actually. But I prefer Kilborn.
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Actually, since most parliamentary governments are run by coalitions, only some parts of which are generally Socialist, their governments cannot strictly be called socialist, either.
I can't at the moment think of a government which is in its entirety socialist, except the current executive branch of the US government. But that's only a part, despite it being a fairly stinky part at the moment. And it's likely only short-term.
As for all dictatorships being equally hellish.... come on, give me a try. I can be better than the rest, trust me. Constitutional Tyranny is the way to go.
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Well, Liam, Labour is a member of the Socialist International. Though admittedly all the "New Labour" and the "third way" propaganda would kinda raise doubts.
And IIRC, the SPD has a pretty strong grip on Germany, First of Two, that is, a clear lead on the next nearest party. (Given Germany's political landscape with so many parties, God himself couldn't get a majority) I might add that New Zealand is also under a socialist gov't right now. (Admittedly another coalition, but Labour controls 80% of the Cabinet)
To be blunt, socialists are a force to be reckoned with in every major democracy except the US. You can't apply the fringe status they hold in the US to the planet.
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The only monarch who won't turn into a tyrant is the one who didn't want to rule in the first place.
Like...Martok!
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Well, there are such things as people who want to do something because they think they would be good at it, you know...
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What that means is, if a person who didn't want power got the power, he/she is less likely to abuse it. In a different perspective, if Congress were run by people who didn't care about material wealth, they wouldn't be giving themselves raises or reserved parking at the airport!
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"if a person who didn't want power got the power, he/she is less likely to abuse it."
And less likely to be prepared to properly wield the power, no?
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If a person is ever unwillingly forced into power, you can bet those who forced him/her to do it recognize the potential! You put an unwilling but wise person into power, not an unwilling idiot.
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