------------------ Pilot: You're sure they were Americans, eh? Fraser: They were all wearing new boots, they were driving a Jeep Wrangler, and they carried big guns. Pilot: Americans it is. - "due South"
In another post, you're talking about getting your "first" job, yet you imply that you've got children here?
Dude, don't contradict yourself like that.
Ok, your parents told you ... what? If you touch the oven, you'll hurt yourself?
So you tell your kid (when you have one), "if you touch my gun, you'll shoot yourself" ... yet, I thought you said you would never allow your child to find your gun, much less work the trigger? So why warn him/her?
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I imply no such thing. I simply ask whether you have or not. You need to learn a few things about communicating.
"Ok, your parents told you ... what? If you touch the oven, you'll hurt yourself?"
Something like that. Then they gave me a good swat if I tried to anyway. Enough to keep me away.
"So you tell your kid (when you have one), "if you touch my gun, you'll shoot yourself""
No, I'd tell my kid, "You see this? It's a gun. Guns are REAL dangerous. So NEVER pick one up, you hear me? If you see a gun, run away as fast as you can and come tell me. But don't touch it." Something along those lines, anyway.
"yet, I thought you said you would never allow your child to find your gun, much less work the trigger? So why warn him/her?"
Because I can't be around my kid 24/7, unfortunately. Gotta trust him/her to some degree.
------------------ Pilot: You're sure they were Americans, eh? Fraser: They were all wearing new boots, they were driving a Jeep Wrangler, and they carried big guns. Pilot: Americans it is. - "due South"
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My father taught me at a very early age, 5 or so, I forget, exactly how much damage a gun can do, by letting me watch him shoot it at different objects that simulated human density (melons, gallon jugs filled with water or sand, etc). He even let me shoot a few rounds to feel the kick and to know what it was like.
I also saw the results frequently when he went hunting... such as a groundhog with its inside on the outside. GROSS.
He then talked with me about gun safety, and the three major rules.
He then told me where his guns were kept, which ones were loaded, and that if he EVER caught me having handled one without permission, or even suspected that I'd touched one, he would SKIN ME ALIVE. I believed him, because he ALWAYS followed through on punishments.
Those together were enough to keep me perfectly safe in a house owned by a gun collector / hunter / firearms dealer for nearly THIRTY years.
As they would be for anyone with two active brain cells.
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Oooh, there's a chance to make a really good joke about Omega, but I won't. And know you'll all wonder what it was, won't you? Well, let me assure you that this was a king amoungst jokes. If you told this joke to other people, they'd instantly want to sleep with you. And if they were of the same sex, they'd instantly become gay, and want to sleep with you.
Yes, it was that good a joke. People's heads would have burst.
You know that pain you're feeling? That's "joke-rage".
(as a side note, I'm amazed we've got this far without some self-satisfied git going 'well, I wouldn't touch alcohol anyway, as only morons need alcohol to enjoy stuff, I'm far to good for it, blah blah blah I own a Star Trek uniform blah blah computer's are fun and interesting blah blah internet porn blah' and so on).
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I don't think I should give Liam the satisfaction of asking him to tell the joke...
------------------ Pilot: You're sure they were Americans, eh? Fraser: They were all wearing new boots, they were driving a Jeep Wrangler, and they carried big guns. Pilot: Americans it is. - "due South"
That actually sounds like a good way to keep a child afraid of guns. I don't disbelieve that your father did a good job of keeping you from treating a gun as a toy.
But, we live in a society where guns are glamourized. Murder is commenplace in TV shows, where the heroes blast fifteen guys away then go out for a beer. And children like to play with guns ... toys, we can hope, but ...
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Hey, that's what parents are FOR. Take responsibility to teach your kid the difference between reality and fantasy, right and wrong, responsibility and irresponsibility. If you won't... DON'T be a parent. It's not anybody else's JOB to be the parent. Especially the government.
------------------ "Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ty Kwan Leap. Approach me, that you might see." -- The Master
quote:But, we live in a society where guns are glamourized. Murder is commenplace in TV shows, where the heroes blast fifteen guys away then go out for a beer. And children like to play with guns ... toys, we can hope, but ...
I don't want this to turn into a whole 'fuck the media! it messes up our kids' debate, but I'd think you'd be extremely hard pressed to find ANY crime that was committed because someone saw something on TV that was cool.
I like Gladiator. I don't wrestle tigers because it was glorified, they'd hurt me, and Lord knows how I hate pain. Agonizing, throbbing pain, that spreads through your body like when you bonk your head on the corner of the table after you fell of you chair and couldn't catch yourself because your hands were still down your pants from masturbating to nude pictures of Dr. Laura, and when your parents hear your fall, they come upstairs and see what's on your screen.
Anyway, I seem to have forgotten my point. My point is that fish are not supposed to be on pizza. The Italians didn't call ir 'Fishzza', so get those anchovies the fuck of my pizza.
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I seem to remember a controversy a few years back. A Disney released movie featured kids lying on the white lines on a highway, playing "chicken" with the cars.
After the movie was released, a couple kids decided to react the scene and were killed.
Does anyone remember the movie? This was about 10 years ago.
I'm not saying that kids are going to see someone get shot in a movie and go get a gun and shoot someone ... but guns ARE glamourized in films. Shootouts are commonplace. Can you deny that?
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I don't know. Thanks to my upbringing, they never were for me. I much prefer bladed weapons. They're far more elegant.
As to the movie... If some folks are stupid enough to copy something like that that happens in a movie... they deserve being run over. Think of it as evolution in action.
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I completely agree. Sword are a very "elegent" type of weapon ...
I have a bumpersticker on my Jeep: BUY A SWORD/NO WAITING
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Wasn't there also some kids that were playing Power Rangers and killed a playmate? Now I am waiting for the Pokemon kids to become violent, seeing that little yellow guy zap people. I remember the movie too, wasn't it the classes football players being cool or something?? So, TV/Movies do have an effect on our kids (well, those of us old enough to have them), and I don't think much of it when it's violent. My dad did the same thing with me the 1o2's did for him, plus seeing the remains of the various critters that he used as examples made a kid ill. Same for snuff, gave me a big mouth full, I was 6 years old vomiting and shitting myself..... Haven't touched it in 26 years. Then, with weapons, I guess I went the other way, joined the army as an infantryman.... Well, he made it so I never used snuff anyway!!!
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