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First of Two
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That's true enough.
But does that mean we shouldn't TRY?

Now for me, the closest I've been able to come to a moral absolute is:

You shouldn't cause unnecessary harm or suffering to other people.

That's still not quite pinned down, because of a need for the definition of "unnecessary harm."

For instance, necessary harm is like that occuring during surgery.
Or discipline.
Or self-preservation.

Still working on that.
But when I finish, can I be Boss?

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Jeff Raven
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I did not say thou shall not kill. I said thou shall not murder. Murder is killing with malicious intent.

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Malnurtured Snay
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So ... if my little daughter gets raped by two big rednecks, I shouldn't take my M-16 and gun them down in a court room?

Omega, the point is, if someone is ALREADY a homicidal raving lunatic, wouldn't you like to know that BEFORE you sell them a gun?

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Omega
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If someone's a homicidal raving lunitic, then they'll have already done time in prison, and thus couldn't be sold a gun under existing laws. That is, if the obstruction-of-justice department would enforce them.

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Aaah, yes, they couldn't be sold a gun from an Official source.

I do believe it's quite easy for them to find on from an unofficial source, like, say RedNeck Bill's trunk. The laws designed for this do nothing.

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Malnurtured Snay
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If someone's a homicidal raving lunatic, then they'll have already done time in prison, and thus couldn't be sold a gun under existing laws. That is, if the obstruction-of-justice department would enforce them.

Ah, look at Omega. Isn't his circular logic amazing? Now, you'll notice, ladies and gentlemen, that he apparently skips over the rather obvious conclusion that he may not yet have demonstrated himself - in a way to be noticed by law enforcement agents - to be a homicidal raving lunatic. Apparently, the "Omega" specimen assumes that the "homicidal raving lunatic" is born with a prison term tucked under his arm, so to speak.

Seriously, Omega. What if a man has a mental disorder, which could possibly be picked up by a psychologist? But which has not manifested itself clearly enough to make him noticeable to the police? You really want this kind of guy walking in to a gun store and buying the new model Smith & Wessan?

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Omega
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UM:

"I do believe it's quite easy for them to find on from an unofficial source, like, say RedNeck Bill's trunk. The laws designed for this do nothing."

Then they wouldn't work for determining whether someone's a psychopath before selling them a gun, either, would they?

JK:

"What if a man has a mental disorder, which could possibly be picked up by a psychologist? But which has not manifested itself clearly enough to make him noticeable to the police?"

Oh, please, describe this magical mental disorder that so PERFECTLY fits your requirements. I'd love to know the name of anything that acts like that.

Do you know how few shootings are commited by people with NO criminal record whatsoever? You probably would, if you read the book I recomended. In fact, I'd bet Rob'd be willing to fill you in at no charge.

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Malnurtured Snay
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What book did you recommend and when did you do so?

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Another good book is the 'History of Torture', I think by a guy named Manix (Or some variation). It's been 8 to 10 years since I read it.
Great book, especially for creating enchanting conversation at parties.

It covers the Inquisition and their devious tactics, great for the up coming fundie National Convention.

Since we were on book recommendations, and several people here seem to like torturing themselve here......

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Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs
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When I said 'the laws...they do nothing!', I was indeed referring to the fact that Deranged individuals can purchase weaponry quite a bit easier than I can purchase porn.

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Everyone on the Flameboard is a masochist.

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Omega
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I recomended the book "More Guns, Less Crime" by John Lott. Remember, where you weren't paying attention and thought I was talking about the senate majority leader Trent Lott? Well, I guess you REALLY weren't paying attention.

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Malnurtured Snay
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Ah, yes, that book.

Omega, I never thought your John Lott was the Senate majority leader.

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PsyLiam
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Over here, buying the porn's a wee bit easier than buying the gun. And thanks to the wonders of the internet, you don't even need to leave the house to enjoys the wonders to lovely ladies trying to find change that they've dropped into each other. By using their toungues.

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