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Argument #1: The US ABM shield will be seen as a threat by these other, smaller, single-nuke countries, who will use it as an excuse to attack. (no explanation of HOW this is a threat to them, same fallacious logic that lets them believe that having a gun in your home will make an intruder HAVE to kill you.) Ndvertheless, it may be true.
Argument #2: The single nuke countries are a threat to the US, (and everybody else) because of their (supposed) ability to smuggle in a nuke. Okay, that's true enough.
You're right. We should nuke THEM first. Pack my bags, I'm going to Tehran!
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It's odd, it is. Somebody comes up with a dozen or even a hundred or so scientists that say 'Star Wars' can't work, and I'm supposed to buy into that... but when I come up with a list of 18,000 scientists who say Kyoto can't work, (outnumbering more than 10 to 1 those who say it can) you ignore it.
Just as an aside, I've heard that "Star Wars" (man, didn't they come up with a disparaging doublespeak name for that program fast?) was originally conceptualized by certain hard-SF writers.
Why do we put anti-missile countermeasures on our aircraft carriers, and around our ground troops (remember the Patriot) if they don't work? Or is it more important to protect our military than our civilians?
I mean, if anti-missile missiles are useless, why did Israel just buy a boatload of them from us?
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quote:Why do we put anti-missile countermeasures on our aircraft carriers, and around our ground troops (remember the Patriot) if they don't work? Or is it more important to protect our military than our civilians?
Yes, those Patriots sure provided *excellent* defense against Saddam's SCUDS during the Gulf War. Technology from the fifties that was barely even touched by the supposedly vastly superior Patriots. Thanks for proving my point.
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Come with me as we watch this tread slowly circle back on itself and consume the early posts, digest them and spit them out as later posts.
See the Hawks chase paper dragons again and again.
Marvel to the copyright postings of Sol System.
Watch as AIDS and hunger ravage the world while pupet and Dufas In Chief, Georgie "Yes Mr. Cheney" Bush kowtows to the American military industrial complex spends billions and billions of dollars on a useless shield!
And as always, keep in mind that it could be a beautiful world to live in.
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Watch Jay ignore the fact that the US just increased its contribution to the global fight against AIDS by tens of millions of dollars!
See environmentalists insist that we bankrupt ourselves on a problem that 10 out of 11 scientists say we don't have or can't solve!
Laugh as globalist negotiators sign on to a treaty that their governments won't ratify!
Cheer as Bush approval ratings outpace Clinton's for the same time in office! (58% as opposed to Clinton's 45% at this time 8 years ago)
Snicker as several world leaders show how hypocritical they are by one moment decrying the missile shield and it's 'uselessness' and the next demanding that the US share the technology for building it, and/or its coverage!
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You have to note that there is some sort of agreement between Russia and the US. I'm against this whole missile shield thing since it may cause another cold war, and potentially grow into another WORLD war.
If Bush can get all the major world leaders to agree on this, with some level of sacrifice on his part, then the threat of cold war is reduced. On this basis, I will applaud Bush for coming to terms with Russian President Putin for this breakthrough.
As for monetary expenditure, heck it's not MY money, so .
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Actually Fo2. Bush Jr.s approval rating is currently 50% exactly. That is DOWN by 6% since April. Bush is losing supporters. This I have heard in the news. This isn't something I made up, but I suppose that you and/or Omega are gonna give me some half-assed remark about it and blow my statement off completly.
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It's even amazing they're bringing up poll numbers at all, considering how quick they are to point out how innacurate polls and surveys are ...
One wonders why 1o2 must even bother bringing up Bush's approval rating at all. Maybe he's ticked because Clinton's rating is still higher then Bush's (and the dude's been out of office for six months!)
Oh my, that's next to nothing and doing next to nothing.
And a big zero on originality.
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