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Well, it's a bit hard to tell if you like the opinion before you read it.
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Da_bang80
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well, let me put it this way. if you don't agree with my opinion. then shove it.
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quote: Of course voyager had to run into the borg. about the only thing STAR TREK in the whole series. except for those damn ugly saucer-ships at least the defiant was a nice little ship. other than that, ship after ship those guys thought up had a saucer with the bridge right smack in the middle. Can you say target? and they all look the same. put any two desings side by side (except the holy defiant) and you can instantly see the basic similarities. romulan and klingon two. but klingon ships are cool so i won't rat on them. i hope the next trek series has a little CREATIVITY. the tie fighters in Star Wars are bad too.
This is the same tired argument that I thought was put to rest a long time ago. Like someone said before, the saucer is design lineage. It's basically what identifies Starfleet ships.
The bridge being a target was thought up one day, and seems to be used to just bash Trek now by people who are a little ignorant. The kind who think "Trek is so boring, they talk too much. It needs more cool explosions to be good." Some people seem to think that because Star Trek is in space it's supposed to be full of battles. The truth is that Roddenberry's idea for Trek was "good dramam, covered up by sci-fi." It's about humanity, not finding the best way to blow something up.
Creativity? If Star Trek wasn't creative, then the original Enterprise would have either been the classic flying saucer or rocket ship. Every design has originality, but you can see the relationship to it's sister ships. That's the point, to be albe to look at a ship and know if it's Klingon or Starfleet.
I guess this has turned into a rant, but you see my point. Some people seem to misinterpret Trek, and those people seem to be the really loud ones.
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Da_bang80
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polite. now there's something i havn't tried. OH THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!! is that polite?
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Anyway, Commander Paris is right. Visual identity is very important. The general public might not be able to tell a Galaxy-class from a Constitution, but they can still tell if a ship's from Star Trek or not. Likewise, most people can identify a TIE Fighter. They aren't so much ships, as visual icons for the show. People want something fresh, yes, but not too different. (Look at Star Wars, and the lukewarm reaction most of the episode 1 ships got. The one most liked was Darth Maul's, which had a lot in common with a TIE Fighter). And for the general public, Star Trek = Enterprise = ship with saucer. By abandoning the secondary hull, they're already created a ship that will look radically different to a lot of casual fans who have no idea about the Akira (and other FC-CGI ships), but it's still close enough that they can tell what it is.
-------------------- Yes, you're despicable, and... and picable... and... and you're definitely, definitely despicable. How a person can get so despicable in one lifetime is beyond me. It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people. Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't just that... it isn't... it's... it's despicable.
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quote:Of course voyager had to run into the borg. about the only thing STAR TREK in the whole series. except for those damn ugly saucer-ships at least the defiant was a nice little ship. other than that, ship after ship those guys thought up had a saucer with the bridge right smack in the middle. Can you say target? and they all look the same. put any two desings side by side (except the holy defiant) and you can instantly see the basic similarities. romulan and klingon two. but klingon ships are cool so i won't rat on them. i hope the next trek series has a little CREATIVITY. the tie fighters in Star Wars are bad too.
So only the Defiant is cool.. because it blows stuff up? Actually I like the Defiant being the exception, because thats why I dont watch sh*tty science fiction where all that happens is stuff getting blown up and the only design lineage is to see how many more mega-turbo-blasters you can fit on a new ship. And i would gladly fly in a starship with the bridge on top.. because if i went into space, it would be to explore, not to fight things. I realize that there might still be fights, but part of the hopeful mentality of Trek is that in the the future, people wont have to fight and people like you who only want to see things shooting may not exist anymore. Go watch some cartoons. The people on the bridge are safe when the ship turns into a giant robot and punches the 'bad guys' and everything flashes and looks real cool.
Next time, we will work on grammar, sentence fragments and capitalization
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