quote:Originally posted by EdipisReks: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Vogon Poet: Alley had already been replaced for star trek III, so i couldn't imagine them breaking continuity again by hiring her for star trek VI.
Because having a character be played by one actor, then having that actor change, and change back, HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN STAR TREK OR DEXTER'S LABORATORY EVER IN LIFE OR TIME!
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I think someone here has a text file of a very early script for Star Trek VI. I read it not to long ago, and the version I read (if we assume that it was an authentic early draft) had Saavik in it. Kinda. It was Valeris's character with Saavik's name but none of Saavik's background.
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I believe to have a character played by one person - then another then back to the original actor has happened only once in Trek. The Borg Queen.
It happened with Becky in Rosanne.
Alexander progressed to different actors... ok barring the 'future' Alexander in season 7, cause the Brian Bonsall Alexander was still there.
Tora Ziyal just had three different actresses - one after the other.
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Spock beats them all. He was first played by Leonard Nimoy, then by Carl Steven, then by Vadia Potenza, then by Stephen Manley, then by Joe W. Davis, and finally by Leonard Nimoy again.
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Spock aging during ST III I guess you mean, but in that special circumstance I don't think it should count.
quote:4. That Saavik was supposed to be carrying Spock's child and that was why she was staying behind on Vulcan in Star Trek: IV.
That much is certainly true, scenes regarding this were even filmed. Once such scene that was cut involved Saavik explaining to Kirk that she would not be joining them on their trip to Earth, but was staying behind on Vulcan with Spock's mother to take maternity leave. It was the whole reason behind Saavik even being in STIV in the first place.
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quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poet: I think the same rumour was mentioned in Shatner's Star Trek Movie Memories
I remember reading it there too. He also mentioned that when Alley proved to be too expensive, they were considering casting Kim Caitral as Saavik (she had be originally been considered for the role in STII), but decided that it was probably not the brightest idea to recast again.
As I remember, he made no mention of Robin Curtis. I wonder if she was unavailable or just sucked too much for them to allow her on-screen again (until TNG anyway).
quote:Originally posted by Topher: I seem to recall reading somewhere that Saavik was intended for that role, but that she was too popular with the fans or something like that.
Shatner also mentioned that Gene Roddenberry wrote a deluge of angry memos protesting using Saavik as a traitor because she was too beloved by fans. Shatner notes this as ironic because supposedly Gene opposed the creation of Saavik in the first place.
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I'm sorry and in all respect to Gene, but to cut a quarter hour of the more 'militaristic scenes' would have ruined the film. The Film is the best of them all - really. Even over Kahn. Gene didn't want Spock on TNG - Spock WORKED on TNG. I guess Gene was just wanting to maintain his vision. That vision is still there - it's just stretched a little. I guess he wasn't always correct. (Of Course) but he had this fantastic vision of the Future. And if anything - The Next Generation kept that spirit alive.
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True indeed. One of the main problem with TMP was Roddenberry constantly interfering. It was said by Harold Livingston (whilst working on TMP) that "Gene Roddenberry had a great story mind, but was terrible at writing scripts". Paramount Execs called Gene's rewrites for TMP as 'shit'.
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