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Identity Crisis
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FASA system: http://steve.pugh.net/fleet/images/fasa-ranks.gif

Not very good quality, small picture and FASA's print quality are to blame (plus my antique scanner).

Oh, and FASA are the one of the few sources I know of for TOS (proper 2260s TOS, none of this movie stuff) enlisted insignia. Anyone interested?

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Identity Crisis
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quote:
Originally posted by Treknophyle:
I wrote it in '91 (I think) - but it was published more than once. YOu proobably have the '93 version.

Yeah, I think so.

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Don't worry about the copyright - outtakes SHOULD be shared.
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Now that's interesting. The FASA Admiral and Flag Admiral pins appeared in TNG The Most Toys:
http://www.st-spike.de/starfleet_uniforms/2351-2365/decorations.htm

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why would you include a scheme from a fandom publication not even licensed or approved in any way by any authority owning or licensing Star Trek?
Because it's a comparison between the real scheme and schemes other people made up. Official or Fandom doesn't matter.

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Very much! Where does that photo come?
It's from a ST Collectibles book.

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But I think that the real pin in that position was square, wasn't it?
Nope, it was round.

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Well, we know FASA was used a bit as a reference in early TNG. Were Data's medals seen earlier? I'm thinking of 'Measure of a Man', maybe...

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The medals are certainly shown in "Measure of a Man," though I can't remember them being in "The Most Toys."

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When Geordi and Wesley are doing an inventory of Data's posessions. Also seen is the holographic disc of Tasha, and a few other mementos.

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you know, after he 'died' and everyone thought he was 'dead' and they were going through his stuff. pretty heavy stuff, Data dying. quite sad.
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One of those 'medals' is just a communicator up-side-down! [Smile]

And what is that funky curvy Starfleet symbol in the top right... SORTA looks like the Red Squad symbol.

Oh and shouldn't Able Seaman now be Able Spaceman?

AND - I was watching an Entertainment Tonight special on Star Trek Nemesis - and they pulled out all their old Trek stories. There was one there with Bob Fletcher about the uniforms and how he created a book or a booklet for Fans on all the rank insignia used in STII-IV (who did the costumes for V and VI)

Also how were ranks displayed in TMP years? Was that on the cuff again?

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quote:
who did the costumes for V and VI
Nilo Rodis-Jamero (TFF) and Dodie Shepard (TUC).

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Also how were ranks displayed in TMP years? Was that on the cuff again?
Yes. Some uniforms had shoulder tabs instead of cuff stripes.

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contrary to the reference, i was under the impression that the rank Seaman or Able Seaman was just referred to as 'Crewman' (with 'Able Crewman' possibly being the longform) in Trek.. Simon Tarses was referred to as Crewman, and I even think I caught a 'Crewman First (or Second) Class' in VGR somewhere.. "Good Shepard" or "Equinox" (although the latter might have just been in the novelization, my memory of the actuall episodes == muy hazy).
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Lee
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I've never read the novelisation of "Equinox" and yet I also have a recollection of crewmen of either first or second class, so. . .

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I'm fairly sure that was in the Equinox novelisation.

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Tarses referred to himself as Crewman Third Class. I am elephantine!
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No, he said Crewman First Class.

When was the FASA scheme published?

[ January 22, 2003, 15:58: Message edited by: Spike ]

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Oh, yeah, BTW, something unrelated to the rank chart, but Spike might want to take into consideration for the uniform guides: I noticed that, in Nemesis, the trouser-cuffs (pants-cuffs to Americans) had returned to those weird triangular cut-outs that weren't on the original FC-late DS9 variants. . .

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