quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Um. No. I still think he had another command.
Well, like I said, there's no solid evidence for that, not that he didn't had another command. I find it werid, too, that he didn't had that other ship... wait.
Reverend said that we can't be sure that he wasn't offered the Captain's chair on new and more advanced ships while he was in command of the Stargazer.
So, unless this hipothetical next command ended much like the previous one it means they offered him Enterprise and he accepted. I guess it was Enterprise magic that (hipothetically) caused him to accept
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Maybe he painted names and registrys on starship hulls as a part time minimum wage job until he could pay for the loss of the stargazer, and out of spite mis-spelled and numbered much of the fleet.
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Just rewatched "The Battle" tonight... Picard probably gained quite a bit of prestige after defeating the Ferengi with the Picard maneuver... Geordi even remarks, in awe, that he read about the Stargazer and its accomplishments at the Academy, which would be around the time it was destroyed, possibly even before. So the Stargazer did have a fair amount of fame, both before and after it was lost.
Second, Picard mentions in "The Next Phase" that he was doing inspection tours for a brief time, but it also seems to imply that he had been waiting for a ship, just like the line in "Legacy." Perhaps he had been promised the Enterprise or another Galaxy class, and was just waiting for it to be built?
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That could be, maybe Trek worked on the point system, as many organizations do, and he had more than enough points racked up to get the Enterprise like he did. In the meantime, I am sure there are plenty of other duties he could have performed, as again, he also could have had a lot of leave time he could have been indulging. Also in regards to a point system...I will be really disappointed if when Riker cashed his in for the Titan, we find out that the Titan is a really lame ship.
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There are lots of things he could have been doing. I think the reason for Picard's aissignment as Enterprise CO has less to do with a "points" system and more to do with his depth of experience as a commander, diplomat, and administrator.
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Well, let's look at Riker's former offerings... the Drake may have been pretty lame, but the Aries was a step up. And both the Melbourne and Voyager weren't too shabby... plus he had the Enterprise for a while. I think it's safe to assume the Titan is at least Nebula-equivalent.
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Wait! Not to go too far off topic here, but what episode was he offered the Voyager in? Oh, and i've read that he once served on a ship called 'yorktown', was that ever legit? I'm afraid to make a new thread on this fresh tangent topic, but I would hate to be chastized for it again.
As for the rest about experience, I agree totally...I just thought I would throw the point system point in there because it is a reality in the workplace and military (somewhat) in todays world.
Oh and was it ever established how long his layover was between the Enterprise-D and the Enterprise-E. Wasnt it only a year old or slightly less in "First Contact", doesnt that place it about a year after "Generations" as there was two years between those two movies?
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Riker was never offered Voyager, but I believe in creating the series, they were bouncing around the idea of giving Voyager to Riker, before settling down on a female captain instead... leading to Janeway.
Riker also never served on any Yorktowns. His assignments in order are:
1. USS Pegasus, helmsman 2. Betazed, unknown duties 3. USS Potemkin, security or tactical officer 4. USS Hood, XO 5. Offered command of USS Drake, but declined to serve on USS Enterprise 1701-D as XO 6. Offered command of USS Aries, but declined to remain aboard Enterprise 7. While still assigned to Enterprise, given temporary command of USS Hathaway in battle exercise 8. Offered command of USS Melbourne, but Melbourne destroyed before he could decide... meantime was made CO of Enterprise 9. Returned to XO duties of Enterprise 10. While still assigned to Enterprise, given temporary command of USS Excalibur 11. USS Enterprise 1701-E, XO 12. USS Titan, CO (13. Possible command of Starbase 247 in future given existance of alternate timeline)
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quote:Originally posted by Dat: (13. Possible command of Starbase 247 in future given existance of alternate timeline)
And the 1701-D refit...
Would his temporary command of the Enterprise in "Gambit" count too?
For some reason, I seem to remember Q saying in "Death Wish" he'd hoped Riker would have taken command of Voyager. I guess it's sort of an objective thing as how you could interpret the line.
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Ooo Ooo...and the Pagh....don't forget the Pagh!!
I guess the rest I knew, but somewhere, possibly from some trek magazine from days of ole...I think it was during the last season of TNG there was a profile of all the characters, and the Yorktown was mentioned before the potemkin. But obviously it isn't canon so I thought I would ask anyhow as I havent seen a few episodes of TNG since they first aired!
As for the Titan...I wish it were an Ambassador Class..I miss the Ambassador, unfortunately it was phased out of screen time loooooooong before it should have been...especially considering it was far more advanced then the tired old Excelsiors and Mirandas.
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I thought that the Titan must be pretty big - maybe a Sovereign (doesn't really sound like a Galaxy or Nebula IMO) - because Riker has a history of turning down command of little ships (and in fact could even have turned down a Nebula depending on your interpretation of the Melbourne situtation) and I assumed that the way Starfleet got him to leave the Enterprise was to wow him with an incredibly cool ship.
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That comes from the novel "Fortune's Light" by Michael Jan Friedman. IIRC it was also mentioned in "Reunion".
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