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When I went to my local Wal-Mart to pick it up I noticed that it seemed to only be a single disk. I thought it was going to be a double disk SE, like they did with parts 1-4. What seemed odd was that the back said it has all the bonus material like the other double disk editions. So if any of you have all ready bought it please let me know what's going on.
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I thought it was going to be the double-disc too. I'm getting used to all those Director's Edition ... luckily, I caught myself before I bought the PAN&SCAN EDITION!
The DVD lists as having:
Director's Commentary Exclusive Commentraries (New Frontiers: David Baird on directing Nemesis) (Bold Vision of the Final Frontier) (Star Trek Family's Final Journey) (Red Alert! Shooting the Action) 7 Deleted Scenes Photo Gallery Widescreen V. enhanced for 16:9 TVs English Subtitles Dolby Digital: -Eng. 5.1 surround -Eng. Dolby surround -French Dolby Surround
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I'd like to know if the deleted scenes can be integrated into the flow of the movie, personally.
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I'm guessing there will be a second disk - if only to recoup lost moneys from the movie.
I read an article at trektoday.com I think where Berman says "I don't like Special Editions" or some such shite. Probably because it'd show off what huge, gaping mistakes he made. The article also said the director had already done the commentary. So I reckon they are doing the old trick of releasing a 'lesser version' and then doing a bigger version in a few months.
And about the integrated scenes - there is some special term they use when the cut scenes are spliced back into the run of the film. I don't reckon they will be.
When did the SE for ST:IV come out? I'm still waiting for it in Australia. It sucks how there will be no SE for ST:V will there? Or is it that Shatner was just denied any form of 'director's cut'/extra shooting'?? It think it's the one film along with TMP that needs that sort of treatment.
Are they going to have Generations and Insurrection DVDs with the reels and reels of film they viciously chopped from the movies spliced back in?
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I just watched the "New XO" scene. For it to work, the end of the movie would have to be chopped up a bit. The scene begins immediately AFTER the scene where Riker requests permission to disembark, and the scene continues to the Enterprise warping away. So, the stuff with B4 would have to be cut.
And y'know what? I like that. I like the XO scene much better than the ending incorporated with the film. It flows better, plus, we get to see our TNG crew continuing with new officers -- a nice time of healing and renewal, what with Data's death, and Riker & Troi departing. I heard that Crusher was leaving too, but didn't see anything in the movie to support this.
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Why would everyone be pretty much leaving? It's only really Riker and Troi because they are now married and Will had decided to finally accept his own Command.
Did they cut the scene where Worf says the diplomat life wasn't for him? I want him to stay on Q'Onos.
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How much more "special" do you want? Aside from a commentary track or two and deleted scenes, most of the rest tends to be filler, unless the film is special in some way. Nemesis has way more included than any of the other TNG films. I highly doubt there's another Nemesis release in the works. (On vanilla DVD, that is. We'll no doubt get an HD-DVD one, or a Blu-Ray one, or whatever the next media standard is.)
As far as the re-release of the films already on DVD goes, last I heard "special editions" for at least V and VI are pretty much a sure thing.
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quote:Why would everyone be pretty much leaving? It's only really Riker and Troi because they are now married and Will had decided to finally accept his own Command.
Not everyone. But half the cast. Let's see, we've got: Picard, Riker, Data, LaForge, Worf, Troi, and Crusher.
Data's dead. Riker and Troi are gone. Cut lines may have indicated Crusher was going. In any case, half of the TNG crew is gone, and the XO scene was, to my mind, a good way to end, with knowing that our lost comrades would be replaced, and that the Enterprise would go on, with a good deal of our beloved cast replaced.
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I bought my copy of the DVD today. Apparently some copies come with a CD-ROM containing a copy of the original Star Trek: Nemesis website, with trailers and the rotating iPix of the Romulan Senate and everything. My copy, unfortunatly, did not (all the Fullscreen versions seemed to have it though...).
The 7 deleted scenes are not integrated with the movie, they stand on their own with brief descriptions given by Stewart, Berman, and Baird as to why they were cut. The main reason that the scenes are not able to be put it: They have no CGI. One can clearly see the green screen through the windows/viewscreen in a few of the deleted scenes. No attempts to add stars or anything.
Berman did allude to Crusher leaving to join Starfleet Medical in one of the interview bits on the DVD. I do remember this from the original script myself.
However, my favorite part of the DVD is the way they handled the menus. VERY good stuff, CGI flying around the Enterprise, Argo shuttle, and Scimitar, all the Reman "computer screen" effects around it, little cut scenes for your selections, close ups of the Scimitar and Enterprise. Very well handled.
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quote:The main reason that the scenes are not able to be put it: They have no CGI
This isn't true in terms of the "New XO" scene -- it's even been scored. The only problem with it seems to be that the image is a bit white-washed. It also supports the Crusher has left theory, since otherwise I believe she would've been on the Bridge with Worf & LaForge.
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: I thought it was going to be the double-disc too. I'm getting used to all those Director's Edition ... luckily, I caught myself before I bought the PAN&SCAN EDITION!
The DVD lists as having:
Director's Commentary Exclusive Commentraries (New Frontiers: David Baird on directing Nemesis) (Bold Vision of the Final Frontier) (Star Trek Family's Final Journey) (Red Alert! Shooting the Action) 7 Deleted Scenes Photo Gallery Widescreen V. enhanced for 16:9 TVs English Subtitles Dolby Digital: -Eng. 5.1 surround -Eng. Dolby surround -French Dolby Surround
It has all those features, but it isn't a SE...that comes out later.
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What ever was cut - it was still a pretty piss-poor 'finale' to the TNG crew. I would have been happy for them to leave it at All Good Things... if this was going to be their last film. The film was not good. I didn't spoil ANYTHING for myself this time. I didn't spoil anything for Insurrection - it wasn't the best either - but it was a damn sight better than Nemesis. I saw that movie 3 times - I saw Nemesis once. How did I put it in another thread - or was it this one... hmm... I can't remember but it - oh it wasn't a very INTELLIGENT film. It was quite insulting. It had more Trek re-hash than a season of Voyager. It was just a complete "Kahn" wannabe. Everyone has pointed various plot points out for the movie - but I think it's not individual things about the movie - it's the whole thing. There was no sense of adventure - there was just nothing. There was no heart. Data's "death" was about as hollow as the Android was human. Data had a heart - even if it pumped bio-fluid around his body - but we never saw it. A big shame. We never really got any characterisation. Nothing. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier had more characterisation - the McCoy/Father scene is quite a heavy scene.
I think Nemesis take's Trek V's wooden spoon. It's only failing was REALLY it's lack of budget to realise it's special effects - especially for the ending. Surprising considering how well Trek 4 went for Paramount.
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Again, I disagree. Although the XO scene is whitewashed, both the score and the CGI are finished for it. If you cut out the last Picard/B4 scene, the XO scene would go right after the scene between Picard and Riker in the ready room. IMO, this was a much better ending for the film.
quote:It was quite insulting. It had more Trek re-hash than a season of Voyager. It was just a complete "Kahn" wannabe. Everyone has pointed various plot points out for the movie - but I think it's not individual things about the movie - it's the whole thing. There was no sense of adventure - there was just nothing. There was no heart. Data's "death" was about as hollow as the Android was human. Data had a heart - even if it pumped bio-fluid around his body - but we never saw it. A big shame.
I must disagree! I think Data's death had a lot of feeling to it. Geordi and Data's last look, the expression on Picard's face when he knew what Data was going to do ... Data DID have a heart, and that's why he did what he did.
I do agree with much of what you say, though, Andrew. Check out my "Nemesis according to Snay" thread. I've been working out how I would have rewritten Nemesis if I'd had the chance, and I might do a rather involved storyline of it in that thread ...
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