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Hopefully, none of this will be contradicted by ENT canon any time soon...
Interesting tidbit we've always suspected: the Council President and VP are actually Ambassadors from the member worlds. Or at least former Ambassadors. Are the Council Members considered Ambassadors as well? Were there more CMs there to this meeting beyond the five Ambassadors?
The writer clearly knows how to avoid saying too much on controversial subjects, like how the war *really* affected the founding of the UFP - was it the cause, or an obstacle to be gotten out of the way?
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I think the council members are probably Ambassadors, which I suppose would make Lwaxana and Sarek members of the Council.
How are Federation Ambassadors referred to in the episodes? Are they "the Vulcan Ambassador", say, which could mean "Vulcan Council Member", or are they something else?
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I'd think that the member world represenatives represent their populations and in turn elect the Council and the President from their number. Nobody in their right mind would allow that psycho Lwaxana be on the Council.
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There was a little website out there with the three confusing types of Ambassadors. It gave an example of the different meanings of "Vulcan Ambassador":
- Vulcan Ambassador to the Council, in other words, a Council Member - Vulcan Ambassador representing Vulcan on other planet (be it Federation or otherwise). - An Ambassador (for the Federation) who happens to be of the Vulcan race.
I think it makes sense. it could get even more complicated if every member of the Federation uses different titles for it's representative. Earth might have Council Members, Vulcan may have Ambassadors and Aaamazzaria might have Bbzzzzraaaatans.
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I don't see why Vulcan would be represented on another planet, as it's in the Federation. Wouldn't that be kind of like having an Ambassador for Texas?
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Or maybe it's like having an ambassador to the UN and Canada.
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I doubt there'd be ambassadors from EACH WORLD to all of the other non-Federation powers.... but it would make some sense for Federation members to send Ambassadors to each other. After all, the Federation member worlds have been portrayed as more autonomous than the several States in the U.S....
Alternatively, "Ambassador" could be an honorific and a holdover from the pre-Federation days, just when the Federation was founded? I'm not sure I like that idea, though -- especially because there were LOTS of Ambassadors (and only ambassadors) in "Journey to Babel."
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quote:Originally posted by Phoenix: I think the council members are probably Ambassadors, which I suppose would make Lwaxana and Sarek members of the Council.
How are Federation Ambassadors referred to in the episodes? Are they "the Vulcan Ambassador", say, which could mean "Vulcan Council Member", or are they something else?
Based on "Journey to Babel" it would seem that Ambassadors double as representatives as well; casting votes on admittance into the Federation, such as a US Representative may, whilst holding the title Ambassador, such as Sarek, Tav, et. al. did in that case.
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I think the idea that there are various types of Ambassadors works well.
You'd have to have Federation Council Members (ambassadors) from each world to sit on the council.
You'd have to have consulates on each Federation world - or like in some countries on Earth now, there might be one consulate that covers a few countries. So on Benzar, they might have an Andorian consulate that might also cover Troyian's and Elasians and Arcadians.
Then you'd have your ambassadors to extra-Federation governments. You'd have your Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire (or maybe an entourage - but at least one senior ambassador). They could be of any race from the Federation.
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