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CTTOI, the first Karemma we saw in "The Search I", who wanted tulaberry-wine, was a little gay. That actor also played gay secretary in "Murder One". "must... keep.. thread alive..cough cough"
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Actually if you take combine all of the Canon statments, none of the show is Canon and all of it is Canon, see. What's it doesn't make sense, well it's not supposed to it Star Trek don't you know .
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Er, they've said that TOS isn't canon? Okaayyyy.
The thing is, if they did show a gay couple holding hands, then the scene would immedietly shift from 'Oh no, the Enterprise is about to be destroyed' to 'LOOK! THEY'RE GAY! Aren't we being really cool and hip?'
Besides, how often do you see crewmembers holding each other in a crisis anyway (don't start with Kirk and Rand, okay?) It's not like Voyager is about to be shot down, so she hugs Chakotay. Even on DS9, when the Defiant was under attack, did Worf run across the bridge and hug Jadzia?
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No. By canon we mean, 'accepted by all.' That is constantly changing, of course, and there are some things that aren't agreed on at all - witness the SWDAO page. But for now, you're not going to find any major support for a view that Jeri Taylor's novels are canon. After all, any arguments that her position makes anything she says near-canon may then be applied equally successfully to Shatner's books, and believe me - you don't wanna go there.
For now, canon means books and shows, excepting the Animated Series and most of Star Trek V. Encyclopaedia is canon except where contradicted onscreen, and there you'll likely find that the info (like ship classes and registries) was usually made up on the spot by Okuda without proper research. Usually, anything Okuda or Sternbach say can be taken as canon (they're not often wrong) but not Stipes. . .
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Er...not quite. "Canon" would only be what writers of future episodes would feel obligated to be consistent with, which, again, is the shows and movies. They're not likely to hear about a random comment by Okuda unless Okuda were to explicitly tell them about it.
BTW, most of the registries and classes in the encyclopedia come from various Okudagrams and such; they weren't all made up. Some apparently were, though.
The notion that Star Trek V isn't canon is absurd, because if you start cutting out what you don't like, people could arbitrarily decide that other stuff wouldn't be canon, even though it would.
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Which they have been doing for some time. Read over some of the interviews in the great link. More then one makes the staement "I don't really care what happened in the past, as long as it works for our episode". As much as I like Ron Moore, he is (was) in this camp.
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Now I find myself agreeing with Frank, but there are certain things that are obviously flase, like the Enterprise getting to the galactic core so quickly without any help and the height of the Enterprise-A in ST5.
But other than that, I like Frank's point. Okuda's comments could be considered official, however.
Kosh, I'm not sure if that could be taking what was said a little too far. I have a lot of respect for Ronald D. Moore and I somehow find it unlikely that he'd be among the first to say something like that, but I could, unfortunately, be wrong...
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There's lots of ways to rationalise the problems in STV. We could say that the turboshaft was taken from an old starbase in order to finish the Ent-A on time. We could also say that the galactic core, as defined here, is really large, and they were only at the edge. Or there's a wormhole leading there.
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RDM against continuity? Yeah, and Pol Pot was the founder of the Red Cross.
The only Trek writer who's ever made comments like that was Braga, and frankly I think his entire "Cochrane should be Picard's love interest" thing has been taken out of context and warped a bit into an urban legend of sorts which is propagated by the rather large "Braga is the Anti-Christ" faction. The slightly smaller "Ira Behr is the Anti-Christ" faction has also been known to blow his "anti-franchise" comments out of proportion.
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I went over the the Great Link and looked around. I know it was some time ago, but I couldn't find anything old enough, that had RDM name on it. I was sure that I had seen that there, but perhaps it was Braga.
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