"Okay, people who sign message board posts are bad enough (I am capable of moving my eyes an inch upwards and to the left to see who has posted), but to leave three return carriages before signing off?"
What of people who say "return carriage" instead of "carriage return"?
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Hmmm, thats a good question. What *IS* Chris Carter doing nowadays. Not that Enterprise needs any more lessons on the long drawn-out obtuse plots, but out of sheer curiosity. Anyone?
In any case, I only included his creation on the list because if we consider B5 to be a failiure after two failed spinoffs, well X-Files would have to be considered the same after, well two failed spinoffs.
The only advantage X-Files has is a theatrical movie (vs. a number of tv movies), but that should be negated soon.
I guess I would have to include Hercules and Xena due to me including Angel. But on the other hand, I only included it because Joss Whedon has demonstrated aptitude for the genre with Firefly. Meh, in the end H&X is probably not the type of influence we desire.
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If you include Angel then you have to include Buffy... I'd prefer that not happen... Although I would include Lord of the Rings in the mix which makes Angel, Buffy, Hercules, and Xena "acceptable" canidates to be in the genre.
Joss Whedon is a good story-teller [like JMS], Angel was an interesting show, but I don't want that to be my type of Sci-fi. He did great on Firefly, and it has no comparison [IMO] to Angel.
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We're not talking about these guys' initial shows being failures. They all lasted (and in some cases, outlasted) their projected runs. In terms of ability to repeat that success, though, all three - Straczinski, Carter and Whedon - are all failures.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN:
"Okay, people who sign message board posts are bad enough (I am capable of moving my eyes an inch upwards and to the left to see who has posted), but to leave three return carriages before signing off?"
What of people who say "return carriage" instead of "carriage return"?
the "return carriage" is where we keep all the crap the people brought back for refunds at Whole Foods.
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Whedon is possibly slightly more successful, since Angel lasted four seasons, more than Carter and JMS's spin offs.
As to the ASCII tax thing, no, but I don't see why you do it. It's not that I hate you and want you to die, but...why? We know it's you posting. Do you announce your name constantly when talking to people in real life?
And I'm still confused about being called "kid".
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I don't think however long the show lasted is an issue, the fact remains it ended - abruptly -before its time. Or am I violating the whateverth Commandment of Internet Geekdom, "Joss Whedon Is A God Because He Did Firefly?"
quote:Originally posted by Lee: We're not talking about these guys' initial shows being failures. They all lasted (and in some cases, outlasted) their projected runs. In terms of ability to repeat that success, though, all three - Straczinski, Carter and Whedon - are all failures.
Hmmm, I wasn't really thinking about being that harsh. But, if we are, we'd even have to lump Stargate SG1 into the undecided category since we don't know how Atlantis will turn out.
With that in mind, then we'll really have problems if we only limit ourselves to people that have created successful spinoffs. In any case, Whedon is busy and Stracynski has declined.
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