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I think stripes would look silly on these jumpsuit-uniforms.
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Stripes or insignia on shoulder epaulets would have been nice and it wouldn't clash with the jumpsuits. After all, they use them on today's flight suits, which aren't too different. But Berman probably doesn't want to be accused of copying Babylon 5, which IIRC used epaulets.
Personally, among other things swiped from the later series, I wish they'd dumped the dark, cramped look of DS9 and Voyager. I miss the bright, spacious corridors and rooms of TOS.
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I think the other factor at work here with the uniforms is that, while they say they want to do something new with Trek, they also don't want people to have to work *too* hard to figure things out.
Stripes instead of pips: Casual viewer 1: "What are those stripe thingies on his shoulder, there?" Casual viewer 2: "How the hell should I know? Pikerd never wore anything like that."
Pips instead of stripes: Casual viewer 1:"What are those suare looking thingies on his shoulder?" Casual viewer 2: "Those are like them circles that Pikerd wore on that other Star Trek show. That means he's in charge...cause he has four."
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I doubt the "casual viewer" would be like that. They'd recognize it as military insignia, and that's it. Ask a "casual viewer" how many rank pips a captain wears, and they'll say "Uh... I don't know.".
Basically, the "casual viewer" knows who the captain is because everyone calls him/her/it "captain".
quote:Originally posted by Dr Phlox: What about the Promenade? Anyway Bright colors wouldn't work on tv today and Paramount is going for a film look.
The Promenade was supposed to be big, but it never felt to me like it was very different from any of the multilevel engineering sets. Especially when they would keep it packed with people.
I'm not asking for the pastels of TOS, just a little more light. Besides, it's well known that colors have real, measurable effects on mood and it's illogical to stuff people on a starship for years on end with depressingly dark interiors. Nostromo and Galactica notwithstanding.
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It's just as easy to say the pips are an homage to the old Navy stripe patterns. It's also simpler to have just one set of rank insignia to learn, rather than having to learn the meaning of the stripe patterns (which are Navy) as well as the rank pins (which it has in common with the other services). You make things too complicated and you run the risk of problems like the Air Force had in the early 90s. It decided to move all the rank insignia on the fatigue uniforms to a name pach on the left breast. The problem? You had to get about a foot and a half away from someone before you could tell whether or not to salute him.
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quote:You had to get about a foot and a half away from someone before you could tell whether or not to salute him.
Yeah, I hated khakis in the Navy for that reason. Every time you walk by somebody wearing them on the street you have to squint at the stupid pins to see if they're an officer or a chief.
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That reminds me. Has there been any indication that enlisted will have different uniforms?
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Well, (and perhaps this might have something to do with the fact we have two ensigns in the senior staff, which is a little more in-keeping with contemporary practices), the characters refer to the N.D. extras as "Crewman" in the Broken Bow script, as opposed to "Ensign" which was pretty standard during TNG. So it looks like TPTB are going to make an effort to have a more modern-navy-style setup with fewer officers and more enlistees. Whether that'll materialize into different uniforms or not is anyone's guess; I'm hoping that at the very least we get a decent rank pip system for them.
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chevrons!!!!
CHEV-RONSSS!!
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I'm glad that after all the years of tripping around the issue, they finally put three chevron-looking things on O'Briens collar.
I follow a lot of military history and parlance, but im still not clear on what it means to go from 'warrant officer' (like obriens hollow pip indicated) to a master chief (which his chevrons work out to in most peoples reasoning) or if thats even likely.. anyone know?
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