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Saltah'na
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I've noticed that for every Starbase, there is an admiral in command. Also, there is a Admiral in command of Deep Space 3. Usually there is an Admiral in every important space facility, this probably includes Earth Station McKinley, and Utopia Planitia.

So how come it seems that DS9 is the only station in which there is only a Captain aboard. Given the importance of the station, you'd wonder why they wouldn't send an Admiral up there to facilitate operations there.

Suggestions? Theories?

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My Theory is that Starbases are usually given to Admirals because they are usually bases of command for Fleets for example Starbase 375 is the Base of the 7th Fleet (Right?)

Well i think that most other stations which arnt Bases of Operations for Fleets are given to Captains and Commanders .

And wasent Admiral Ross Stationed at Starbase 375 ? im not really sure.


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I would imagine that only certain starbases have admirals in command of them, starbases that command a fleet or something similar. If not, then this would imply that we have at least 500 admirals in charge of the same number of Federaton starbases. And I remember that a commander was in charge of Starbase 74.

Wasn't Nimoy's wife in charge of Starbase 375 before Admiral Ross?

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Well, admirals don't usually command ships, and they can't all be based at HQ or the Academy. So, what do you do w/ the leftovers? Put them on starbases. What starbases do you put them on? The ones in the Federation core, because they're going to want to have the nice, easy jobs close to home. Who commands the bases farther out? Captains and commanders. Why was an admiral at SB375 during the war? Because it was a war. Things had to change.

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And, strictly speaking, is Deep Space 9 a Starbase? I mean, if it was, why have a seperate classification for "Deep Space Station"?

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Harry
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What's the difference between a Deep Space Station and a Starbase, anyway?

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A deep space station lies on the edges of known space... usually in non-Federation territory... starbases are in Federation territory - usually well with-in its bounds... or so I say

Remember that the officer in charge of the Remler Array was that small-talkier Commander.

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Montgomery
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That is also borne out by the classification of "Deep Space station K-7" back in TOS. It was a border post to the klingon empire. The fact the Klingons laid claim to shore leave there, also suggests it was only Federation-administered for some unknown race whose system it was in.

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Saltah'na
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There is an Admiral Marcus Holt which is stationed at Deep Space 3. I would imagine that Deep Space Stations have the same importance as Starbases.

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Elim Garak
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Perhaps, as an additonal criterium, DSSs must be located so they're not in orbit of a planet or whatever, seeing as there were many starbases on the border in TNG's time; but I suppose the first hour of DS9 vetoes that.

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There are also starbases that are actually on planets. Farpoint Station was on whatever planet the Bandi city was on.

Also, remember in All Good Things, the future Adm. Riker was on a starbase. Course, then he shows up on the Ent D and says she's his ship. I don't know. I'd guess that Admirals have a lot of leeway in where they serve. We've also heard of Admirals aboard ships during both of the Borg invasions. Of course, they were in direct command of those fleets at the time.

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I'm guessing that Admirals can have Starships assigned to their space stations - like Admiral Ross's Intrepid... also - does that mean that Admiral Ross was on an Intrepid during WYLB?

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Harry
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Admiral is only one rank higher than a captain, so there's little difference who you put in charge on a starship. I think that in an emergency, they just get all the commanders, captains and admirals they can get and put them on a starship to fight.

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You mean the Bellerephon? Guess that could be his ship. He used in "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" and people claim that in "What you leave behind" Admiral Ross' bridge looks that of an Intrepid-class ship. So if it is his flagship of the 7th fleet, where is in the shots of Starbase 375? I assume it's with the 7th fleet being commanded by the XO and that Ross only goes on it for major battles. That also seems to be a trend we've seen, there was an admiral present at Wolf 359 and the Borg battle at Sector 001.

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Maybe some starbases rather serve for administrational purposes which usually an admiral is in charge of. This seems to be the case with SB 375 which is the supply and command center for Starfleet in the Bajor sector. As for starbase 74, maybe there is an admiral as supreme commander and administrator, and a commander rank as acting commander.

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