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Aban Rune
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Well, Prakesh, a one-pip Admiral is only one rank above a Captain. But there are 2, 3 and 4 pip admirals out there too.

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Fabrux
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Here is a slightly modified rank representation, of which the original can be found at SMR. I changed it to reflect the ranks that I think are used.

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Saltah'na
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"I assume it's with the 7th fleet being commanded by the XO and that Ross only goes on it for major battles."

I believe that this is true: that the Admiral always has some sort of right hand man (maybe two) piloting his starship. I believe that Admiral Leighton's ship was the Lakota, and Captain Benteen (who was Leighton's assistant) took over command to take on the Defiant. Also, Admiral Kirk probably had Captain Spock as his assistant commanding the Enterprise back in STII.

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Black Knight
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That seems to be a viable theory Tahna Los.

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Gepta001
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mabey it doesn't matter what rank was in charge of DS9 because it wasn't federation owned? wasn't DS9 a Bajoran claimed station? I could be wrong.

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Lt. Tom
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DS9 is a Bajoran station administered by the Federation.

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TSN
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Fabrux: It's "Commodore", not "Commadore".

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Aban Rune
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Tahna: Actually, I believe that Spock was an instructor at the Academy at this point and that the Enterprise was assigned to training duty. I could be wrong.

The issue with the position of commodore. I talked to my uncle (a retired U.S. Navy captain) about this. If I understood him correctly, Commodore is a position, not a rank. Commodor is like fleet captain. It simply means someone in charge of a fleet of ships. It could be an Admiral or a captain. I guess it could be someone of a lower rank too although I would doubt this position would be assigned to a lower ranking officer. Picard served as a commodore during the Romulan blockade in TNG. We haven't even heard the term Commodore used as a starfleet rank or position since TOS. In short, I believe the one pip rank shown in the chart should be listed as "Admiral" and the four pip rank should be "fleet admiral"

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Obi Juan
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Commodores were originally the lowest flag officer rank (not position). Basically they were what is now called a Rear Admiral (Lower Half). As for the current state of the Commodore title, I had heard something akin to what you said and that it was used only during times of war. Now I personally believe that RADM (Lower Half) in a stupid rank and I am rather fond of the rank Commodore, so until we see a one star admiral on trek feferred to as an admiral, I will continue to believe that the rank Commodore is still used.

Sol: Deep Space Station is obviously just a special designation for certain starbases (could be ones lying outside of Fed borders although I find this unlikely). Sisko has referred to it as Starbase Deep Space Nine more than once.

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Aban Rune
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Perhaps Starbase indicates a base that has defense and repair facilities. "Space station" or "deep space station" could refer to outposts that have no such facilities like Regula One which was a research facility and K-7 which was basically a storage and administration outpost.

Remember the ep where Bajor almost entered the Federation but then Sisko freaked out and had those visions? The admiral that came to the station was referred to as an Admiral, and I thought he only had one pip. I could very easily be wrong.

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Aethelwer
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He had four, actually. Although it's appropriate to refer to a Commodore as "Admiral" in any case, generally.

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Fabrux
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TSN: Fixed it.

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Wasn't the Admiral in "The Pegasus" a single-pipper?

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Gepta001
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in the old series where was the indication of rank located?

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Gepta001
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oh and has there ever been a reason given for the change from gold to red as command? I don't remember seeing any rank insignia's on TOS?

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