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Michael Dracon
aka: NightWing or Altair
Member # 4

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According to both 'The Omega Directive' and 'Dragons Teeth' the Borg should only be about 1000 years old.

Yet in 'Q, Who?' a much MUCH larger number of years is mentioned.

Either they've started to assimilate species until 'recently' (in the Borg existance that is...) or it's another of Voyagers changes to the Borg epic timeline...

I don't think it takes 10,000 or 100,000 (or whatever was said in 'Q, Who?') years to meet 125 species. Even worst: The Borg Queen is of species 125, which they only met about 900 years ago...

Still they could have changed tactics or something...

Any speculations on this subject? I really like to know what you think of this.

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Lee
I'm a spy now. Spies are cool.
Member # 393

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WE ARE THE BORG.
WE ARE SIXTEEN, GOING ON SEVENTEEN. . .

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Omega
Some other beginning's end
Member # 91

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Perhaps the Borg aren't native to our galaxy? It'd make sense. As of a millenium ago, they'd still only have assimilated a handful of systems, but they could still be hundreds of millenia old. Once they assimilated an entire galaxy, what's left to do but go on to the next one? Transwarp would be useful for that. Now whether the different galactic collectives are in contact with each other is a different question all together. Perhaps ours is the only one that's really malevolant, due to some sort of malfunction.

This would make them a kind of universal plague.

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Harry
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I thought it was more or less established fairly early on that the Borg originated in the Delta Quad.

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Aban Rune
Former ascended being
Member # 226

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I think that was always the implication, but then Voyager meddled with the timeline again by having the Vaaudwar say what they said. Now, "hundreds of Millenia" ago, as Guinan said, they were probably just in their early stages of what they are now. They weren't nearly as sophisticated and had probably just become some sort of small collective for the first time. They may not have even had interstellar travel at the time. But after they became a collective, I would think that things would prgress pretty quickly from there.

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Omega
Some other beginning's end
Member # 91

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Or maybe they were from another galaxy.

Did anyone ever actually SAY that the Borg ORIGINATED in the DQ?

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TSN
I'm... from Earth.
Member # 31

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Well, wasn't Voyager rather far beyond "Borg Central" by the time of "Dragon's Teeth" (or "Tooth", or whatever-the-hell it was called)? Perhaps it took the Borg until a millenium prior just to get to there. Until that point, maybe they were expanding in other directions.

Who knows? Maybe they found a wormhole to somewhere in a totally different part of the galaxy, and they were assimilating over there. There might be two pockets of densely-populated Borg space in the galaxy...

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TSN
I'm... from Earth.
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I just read Timo's post in the other thread where he mentions that "hundreds of millennia" suggests an age of 200 000 to 900 000 years, and it made me think of something. I checked, and the Iconian civilization was destroyed about 200 000 years earlier. What if there could be a connection? A large group of Iconians transport themselves to the delta quadrant where they end up becoming/creating the Borg.

I know it's just wild speculation, but it's kind of neat. Better than the V'ger theory, IMO... :-)

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Sol System
two dollar pistol
Member # 30

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I've never read it, but that's the general plot of one of those Peter David novels, isn't it? That the Borg are indeed hundreds of thousands of years old and had swallowed almost the entire galaxy before being driven back by the Preservers and others?

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Fabrux
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Hey, that sounds like a good novel.

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Omega
Some other beginning's end
Member # 91

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"Vendetta," wasn't it?

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Teelie
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Member # 280

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Maybe a good "What If..." depending on how well the story is executed then it would become canon I hope.

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Sol System
two dollar pistol
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Vendetta! Yes, that's it.

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Aban Rune
Former ascended being
Member # 226

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I know there's some book out there that says the giant planet killer from TOS was originally built to destroy the Borg. Probably the same book. I like that theory.

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Nim
The Aardvark asked for a dagger
Member # 205

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Well if that constitution-class was enough to stuff it full then the borg prolly wouldn't have hesitated for shit to shove two fully manned borg scout-ships into its mouth. All is expendable.

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