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Harry
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As you might know, I am currenty working on a list of all Federation members (100 and counting).
I need some info/pics regarding the following:

Xenexians
?? Where are these aliens from (episode)?

Ktaria
What do I do with Ktaria? They tried to take over the UFP, but OTOH their culture is a popular one in ST, as seen by the festivals and trade, and Wildman had a daughter with a Ktarian

RPGs
Can we accept some RPG info regarding 'rare aliens' as sem-canon? It is unlikely we'll ever see them again...

Gamelan V ("Final Mission" [TNG])
I conjecture this is a member, since Tessen III and Atrea were members as well, and this is almost the same situation (planet asking for E's help).
But are there any pictures of Chairman Songi?


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quote:
Xenexians
?? Where are these aliens from (episode)?

They are from Peter David's New Frontier books.

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It could have been rogue Katarians (like those rogue Andorians that are out there)

Maybe there is a slight spelling difference between the "The Game" Katarians and the Katarians that have little cranial spikes like Naiomi.

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Harry
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Ok, so I'll ditch the Xenexians.

Another one: The Aurelians from TAS.
Curt Danhauser's site hasn� listed them under 'Lifeforms', so from which episode are they?

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Masao
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Aurelia is the home for those Giant bird men. In TAS episode "Yesteryear" there's a Aurelian historian named Aleek-Om at the Guardian of Forever.

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Harry
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Some other points of interest:

Protectorates vs. Members
Should I include the Evora in this list of members? They were invited to become a protectorate. Do you reckon protectorates have Council seats?
And what should I do with the Son'a, Ba'ku, Tarlac and Ellora?

Rigel
Which (if any) of the twelve planets is a member of the Federation?

Tanuga
Is Dr. Apgar (who tried to kill Riker by killing himself) of a Federation race? His people have justice system bases on "guilty until proven innocent".

Kaelon
Is Timicin's race a member? The Kaelon do commit suicide when 60 years.

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Timo
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Rigelian memberships are up to your personal choice. We have seen that VII has aggressive bronze-age warriors, but that doesn't mean the whole planet's like that, or that the Feds wouldn't approve. We know XII is an uninhabited hellhole with indie Fed miners on it, so during TOS it may not be a member but sure isn't member of any competing empire, either. And V has Vulcanoid populance, and II has good shore leave facilities, but little else is known of them. Not much canon to go by here.

As for Tanuga and Kaelon... "Guilty until proven innocent" is actually a well-accepted part of the Napoleonic code, and a popular way to do justice in today's civilized countries. And mandatory suicide at 60 doesn't sound much worse than mandatory duels to death every seven years, yet Vulcan is an acclaimed UFP member.

It seems that you have to have *very* strong reasons to exclude a culture from membership. And it may not be worth the trouble, since the 150-member canonical quota isn't filling up too fast yet.

Timo Saloniemi


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Harry
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Well, including Kealon, Rigel and Tanuga, I have counted 102 members. Only 48 to go!

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Timo: Duels to the death aren't mandatory every seven years. That only happens when there's a challenge. I'm sure most Vulcans just do the "horizontal mind-meld" every seven years w/o any fighting involved...

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I just concluded that I will not include Kaelon.
The Encyclopedia says that Kaelon had finally asked the Federation for help. Furthermore, Kaelon had it's own fleet of 'Kaelon warships'.

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Did we include the Race that hates manners... and insults people from "Coming of Age"?

Does Data or the Soong-type androids count as (a) separate member(s)

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Harry
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My definition for member:
A member has at least one seat in the Federation Counsil.

Data would not be a member, since he is basically not a political entity. Actually, it's not the races that count, but the planets. (I guess)

The CoA alien was a Zaldan, and yes, he is included.

Sneak preview; http://fleetyard.virtualave.net/articles/ufpmembers.html
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Just a couple points... Jaresh-Inyo is not the current president, and Data's "mother" was human (okay, an android, but the original was a human).

BTW, does anyone else have a problem in Netscape (4.76, at any rate), where the regular text is black (and thus invisible) and the list of races at the beginning is really tiny? It seems to look fine in IE and NS6...

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it is because of the DIV tags in it, making the text small to NS, remove those an it should be multi-broswer friendly.

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Actually, I looked into his cascading style sheet. The font for the "small" class is set to size "xx-small". IE and NS6 interpret this as something readable. Apparently, though, NS4.7 considers "xx-small" to be a wee bit tinier than is readable (for me, anyway) on a 17" monitor at 1024x768. :-)

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