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Mr Powers, we are in agreement, i reckon that TFF Ent-A bridge would suit an in-between bridge for teh Ambassador. my personal all-time fav bridge is the Ent-A from TUC. Its also my personal fav ship - come on u get a real galley (better than VOY's) how nice is that??
*hungry*
nah but seriously, the Ent-A in TUC is my fav ship, internally.
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quote:but I think the one in TFF doesn't fit the Ent-
Austin,
It was the same fucking set in TFF and TUC. How could one fit and one not? It got a paint job and some extra doo-dads for VI, but the phsyical dimensions were still the exact same.
Remember: dark colors make stuff look not so big. It's an optical illusion that TFF bridge was larger ... it wasn't. It was brighter.
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It's the decor that he's talking about. Which is amusing, because all the refit bridges have been very light in colour. It was eggshell in TMP, darkened by lighting in TWoK and TSfS, pristine white in TVH, and a very pale beige in TFF -- with nice oak trim, I might add.
Then they rebounded back past the warm blues and greys of "The Cage" to a set that was all gunmetal and black, with a few red highlights. *bleck* I know, lighting-wise, the later bridges are better for seeing the characters/actors, but I honestly kept expecting to see someone's breath fogging all through TUC. Dim with spotlights looks very cold to me. Heck, the whole feel of the ship in TUC was very claustrophobic. I think Nick was going overboard on his earlier TWoK "submarine" mood.
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P.S. Back on topic briefly -- what cut footage besides the Preston stuff do you think they'll add? Or at least show? Will we get to see Sulu's promotion?
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Actually, the sets were physically different. Paint and upholstery aside, we're always going on about how they switched the stations around, moving four stations aftwards and playing musical chairs with them and the turbolifts. While it made the set look much better, there's no way the change would have made structural sense!
And NEITHER matches the exterior model, mind you. As for the ST5 bridge being better for an Ambassador, It would probably suit better, given its size - one wonders why they didn't use it for "Yesterday's Enterprise", as it was around at that time. But I still hate how lacking in character the consoles are. No extensions, no angles... The chairs were really cool, though.
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I don't think Sulu's promotion was ever shot.
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Unfortunately Austin, the Enterprise-C's bridge was a redress of the battle bridge with the Movie Enterprise bridge portions. Damn, well maybe it would make a nice 2378 bridge for the USS Ambassador.
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The "promotion" scene was shot, but, as others have said, Meyer cut it because of Shatner's unwillingness to play it right (Takei goes into the whole sordrid story in his bio).
The other big "new scene" (I don't count the Preston stuff as new because it's been in the TV version for years) would be the dialogue between Kirk and Spock establishing Saavik as being half Romulan. I hope they include that one, as it makes so much sense re: her character.
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quote:Originally posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge: Unfortunately Austin, the Enterprise-C's bridge was a redress of the battle bridge with the Movie Enterprise bridge portions. Damn, well maybe it would make a nice 2378 bridge for the USS Ambassador.
It's a commonly-held notion that this is so, when in fact it isn't. The E-C was built from generic wall sections that had been in the TNG set stock for years. Ignoring the obvious scale discrepencies, compare the two bridges:
You can see quite clearly that the sets are nothing alike.
The confusion lies in two instances in the second season where the RAILINGS from the movie/battle bridge set was combined with the walls that ultimately become the E-C bridge set, on at least a couple occasions - one of which is the lab Wesley gets to command his science team with in "Pen Pals". Adding to this is that the E-C bridge is next used as the second incarnation of the E-D battle bridge, and a variety of sets thereafter.
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that was my problem with the E-C bridge.. it was the redress of a plain room, rather than a redress of an actual bridge set. most other bridges were usually refits of other bridge sets, the addition of curves and angles really gives it that 'bridge feeling'
other bridges that were room redresses were the Brattain and the Sutherland in the next two seasons.. possibly the same set, or modules of it. I'm not sure,but it might have ended up as Arctus Baran's bridge in Gambit
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thats it "submarine mood" thats why i liked the TUC bridge so much reminds me of like Hunt for Red October and Crimson tide.
well neways, dont mind this let the main train of thought continue.
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@Snay: You misunderstood me. Of course I know about the dimensions of the bridge sets.
With "fit" I didn't mean size, I meant style. I think the TFF bridge as well as the GCS corridor sets (which were not modified in ANY way) don't seem to belong to a Constitution class vessel. Same goes for engineering, I just remember the scene where Scotty is looking at the warpcore which is - surprise surprise - the one from the Ent-D.
That's why I'm glad they changed it again for TUC.
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quote: Oorignally posted by Austin Powers: Same goes for engineering, I just remember the scene where Scotty is looking at the warpcore which is - surprise surprise - the one from the Ent-D.
Huh? I thought it was TUC that redressed the TNG engine room. IIRC, they used a redressed corridor for what little they showed of engineering in TFF.
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...Yeah, but they didn't even bother redressing them back to Classic Films style for TFF. It's really, really visually jarring. Thankfully, they spent a bit of time and money for TUC and made them look less E-D-ish.
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